MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
eq with enanthate
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Captain Planet
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You need to do some research bro. Come back when you know what each of those drugs are and what they do.
Adogg4
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bro I am still a novice to gear, but test is generally considered a steroid that will easily convert to estrogen and give u gyno, no matter what ester is it-propionate, cypionate, or enanthate. So u would want to run an anti estrogen with it if you are sensitive. EQ converts to estrogen at less than half the rate of test, but it can still cause gyno if you are prone to it.
ThePerpetrator
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If this would be your first time using enanthate, how would one know if they were prone to gyno? What are the symptoms and what would be a good dosage to combat it?
Carlito
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For a first timer I think Test Enanthate will be a good choice, even though stacking it with EQ is not a bad idea too. Signs of gyno are sensitive nipples, itching around nipple area, swelling of nipples. I'd would take .5 Arimidex every other day during my whole cycle and have PCT ready a week or two after last shot.
graybass
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First of all, your getting flamed for being a newbie, because you didn't even say if your asking about Test enanthate, or Tren enanthate.
Ask more presice questions.
Not a flame, just trying to help you.
Ask more presice questions.
Not a flame, just trying to help you.
ThePerpetrator
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I'd would take .5 Arimidex every other day during my whole cycle and have PCT ready a week or two after last shot.
I am still learning can you explain a bit more about the whole end of cycle thing.
Also PCT, I feel stuppid but what does that involve?
I am still learning can you explain a bit more about the whole end of cycle thing.
Also PCT, I feel stuppid but what does that involve?
You need to befriend someone that can fill in the gaps.... Print off some of the articles on the article forum here and use it for bed time reading. It will help a ton!
PCT involves a regimine of HCG the last 10 or so days after your last shot and then a decreasing dosage of Clomid or constant dosage of Nolvadex after the HCG is over. Running .5mg's EOD and possible low dosage (10-20mg'sED) D-Bol for 2+ weeks to keep Cortisol levels from spiking......
You can get a pretty extensive PCT if you want to spend the time researching it but HCG, Nolvadex/Clomid, and Arimidex are the norm.
Finisher
PCT involves a regimine of HCG the last 10 or so days after your last shot and then a decreasing dosage of Clomid or constant dosage of Nolvadex after the HCG is over. Running .5mg's EOD and possible low dosage (10-20mg'sED) D-Bol for 2+ weeks to keep Cortisol levels from spiking......
You can get a pretty extensive PCT if you want to spend the time researching it but HCG, Nolvadex/Clomid, and Arimidex are the norm.
Finisher
VDC
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Some are prone to gyno and some are not,,,The only way I know of finding out is to try without using anti-e's but always always always have them on hand even if in the past you've been immune to gyno,,,I've read of guys that used for years then one fine day lump city,,,Oh yeah symtoms of gyno,,,Soreness on or around the nipple, Itchiness in the same place, and lumps under the nipple or around the area,,,Study study study,,,VDC
ThePerpetrator
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Hey VDC,
If those symptoms came up what would be good to take and when should I start stop?
If those symptoms came up what would be good to take and when should I start stop?
Also if you get gyno (basically this means having female tits on you used to be manly chest) you have to have surgery to get rid of it. It won't go away by itself.
The PCT = post cycle therapy/treatment - after a cycle your nuts stop producing endogenous (within the body) testosterone since you have been saturating your system with exogenous (outside the body) AS. So once you come off a cycle your body is sitting there with no exogenous AS and no endogenous testosterone being made. This makes for a bad situation. Amongst other effects of this, your new muscle needs testosterone to be maintained, if you do not have your body making it's own test, then you will loose all your gains while you wait for your nuts to come back online. People use HCG to jump start their nuts to start producing test, but HCG also causes estrogen to be made as well, make sure you take an anti-E to block those receptors or gyno could end up being a problem, clomid and nolva both assist in the re-awakening of the mighty nuts also - so they are also included in a norm PCT. Some people don't like clomid and prefer nolva for side reasons, some people don't use HCG, some people do this and some people do that. Everyone is different, figure it out.
Hope this helps, peace.
The PCT = post cycle therapy/treatment - after a cycle your nuts stop producing endogenous (within the body) testosterone since you have been saturating your system with exogenous (outside the body) AS. So once you come off a cycle your body is sitting there with no exogenous AS and no endogenous testosterone being made. This makes for a bad situation. Amongst other effects of this, your new muscle needs testosterone to be maintained, if you do not have your body making it's own test, then you will loose all your gains while you wait for your nuts to come back online. People use HCG to jump start their nuts to start producing test, but HCG also causes estrogen to be made as well, make sure you take an anti-E to block those receptors or gyno could end up being a problem, clomid and nolva both assist in the re-awakening of the mighty nuts also - so they are also included in a norm PCT. Some people don't like clomid and prefer nolva for side reasons, some people don't use HCG, some people do this and some people do that. Everyone is different, figure it out.
Hope this helps, peace.
ThePerpetrator
New Member
That is GREAT!
Have a recomended dosage for that?
Have a recomended dosage for that?
ThePerpetrator said:
there are a lot of recommended dosages, they range, some people say this and some say that.
There is a ton of info out there on dosages, look for it. I would write it out here, but my hands hurt from typing that up there ^^...besides, there are a ton of tidbits of info you really need to know about before starting a cycle and there is no way you can ask all the right questions if you don't know about them...(ex: if you take Deca you should know that it breaks down into progesterone, not estrogen and that progesterone can cause gyno also....if you take EQ, the half-life is longer than say a test enen or cyp and therefore should be stopped a week before the test is ended so you can start your PCT correctly and at the right time) This goes a lot deeper than just coming on the boards and asking everyone what you should take and how much...don't get me wrong, I am all for coming on the boards and asking questions, I do all the time, but the bulk of your knowledge should come from researching things yourself, b/c you will come across info that you need to know, but didn't know to ask....good luck. For pct dosages, check the stickies at the top of this forum and make sure you feel comfortable before starting a cycle. I am still new and still learning, can't run til you learn how to walk my young padewon.
esco
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there is a good sticky up top about alot of stuff too.
ThePerpetrator
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Thanks,
Still learning all info is good info.
Killed many trees printing out all of this info so far.
Still learning all info is good info.
Killed many trees printing out all of this info so far.
