Ethyl Oleate Guaiacol and butyl stoppers

[Digger]

Ok guys I just acquired a small amount of guac and EO, and I swear med lab sent these things out in vials that look to have gray butyl stoppers in them.

I thought EO especially, was supposed to deteriorate gray butyl. Anybody have experience with these small vials med lab uses?

Appreciate it

 

[LordSamuilo]

Ive had this old one sitting im my cupboard for like 6 months and it doesn't seem like it has deteriorated the stopper at all . I never finished it off because i ended up buying a 500ml bottle ive been using , but im brewing this weekend so ill use the rest if it and pop the cap off and check out the inside of the stopper . I just stuck a pin through it though and its seems ok...

 

[master.on]

Ok guys I just acquired a small amount of guac and EO, and I swear med lab sent these things out in vials that look to have gray butyl stoppers in them.

I thought EO especially, was supposed to deteriorate gray butyl. Anybody have experience with these small vials med lab uses?

Appreciate it

Slightly Ot but why do you need or want Guaiacol?

 

[Digger]

I bought it mainly to test my tolerance to it. I've heard it's good for making pwo injectables.

 

[Digger]

Ive had this old one sitting im my cupboard for like 6 months and it doesn't seem like it has deteriorated the stopper at all . I never finished it off because i ended up buying a 500ml bottle ive been using , but im brewing this weekend so ill use the rest if it and pop the cap off and check out the inside of the stopper . I just stuck a pin through it though and its seems ok...View attachment 82923

Thanks bro. Yea I'm thinking of making some 200mg prop, as I've got a bunch laying around. Need to make up a small sample and see how I react first tho.

Here's the recipe à la @BuryMeBig

Test Prop 200mL @200mg/mL (Painless)

Oil: 86.18mL

Powder:40grams

BA:1.5%- 3mL

BB:16%- 32mL

EO:30%- 38.6mL

Guaiacol:3%- 3.85mL

 

[LordSamuilo]

Thanks bro. Yea I'm thinking of making some 200mg prop, as I've got a bunch laying around. Need to make up a small sample and see how I react first tho.

Here's the recipe à la @BuryMeBig

Test Prop 200mL @200mg/mL (Painless)

Oil: 86.18mL

Powder:40grams

BA:1.5%- 3mL

BB:16%- 32mL

EO:30%- 38.6mL

Guaiacol:3%- 3.85mL

It would honestly probably hold without the G , but 3% isnt anything crazy . Recipe looks solid though, make sure you post up how it works out ! I might make some actually ....after you ginuea pig it for everyone lol

 

[Digger]

It would honestly probably hold without the G , but 3% isnt anything crazy . Recipe looks solid though, make sure you post up how it works out ! I might make some actually ....after you ginuea pig it for everyone lol

Hahaha for sure bub

 

[Digger]

K, made it up. It's weird tho, as soon as I started adding the mig in my cylinder, it started globing up into balls. You can see in one of the photos. Heat didn't seem to do much to release them so I said fuck it and filtered any way. Finished product looks flawless tho, so not sure what to make of it. Now I just gotta test :/

 

[Digger]

Just an update, this 200mg prop is definitely not without pip. Think I'll stick to a lower concentration. Though I'm not totally certain it's not also a reaction to EO or Guac I'm having. Time will tell

 

[master.on]

K, made it up. It's weird tho, as soon as I started adding the mig in my cylinder, it started globing up into balls. You can see in one of the photos. Heat didn't seem to do much to release them so I said fuck it and filtered any way. Finished product looks flawless tho, so not sure what to make of it. Now I just gotta test :/View attachment 82943View attachment 82944View attachment 82945View attachment 82946

So globs dissapeared upon filtration?
Are you sure the globs didn't get stuck on the filter?

 

[Digger]

So globs dissapeared upon filtration?
Are you sure the globs didn't get stuck on the filter?

Yea I'm not too sure to be honest. I suppose they could have.

 

[Testosterona]

Yea I'm not too sure to be honest. I suppose they could have.

Your mg/ml ratio is most likely off then.

 

[LordSamuilo]

Yea I'm not too sure to be honest. I suppose they could have.

It might be off a little , but probably not... If that much hormone was backing up in the filter , that .2 filter would have clogged like a mf'r ... i bet its pretty close , but thats just my opinion so tifwiw. .

 

[RandallNowan]

I think the hormone gets pressure-dissolved at the filter (sometimes).

 

[Digger]

It might be off a little , but probably not... If that much hormone was backing up in the filter , that .2 filter would have clogged like a mf'r ... i bet its pretty close , but thats just my opinion so tifwiw. .

Yea I agree, would have clogged quickly. Remember, it was perfectly clear after adding all solvents and heat. I never pour into my cylinder to top off until the solution is completely dissolved. It either happened when I poured to cylinder or from cylinder back to beaker.

What I thought might have happened is when I filtered it it forced the two parts to mix. There was too much surface tension on the bubbles to properly mix, until they were forced through a .2 um filter. Sort of like atomization.

Bother the surrounding liquid and the bubbles themselves were clear.

I don't think this would have reduced concentration of hormone to a great degree, and I can't really see it affecting the concentration of solvents much either. I mean assuming they, the bubbles were sucked up at the very end of the filtering process, what part of the solution did they constitute prior to formation? Well it's either mig, ba, bb, EO, or Guac. Worst case scenario, would be if they were totally composed of ba. Coluld be, but I lean more towards the newer variables in my brewing experience, EO or guac. Considering I've never seen this happen before with brews excluding them.


Final product is still holding, so I don't know what to make of it. My quads feeling better tho, definitely felt a bit flu like for a day or two.

 

[BuryMeBig]

@Digger Hey brother, sorry I have been MIA for a while, just busy as a mother fucker. Let me review this and I'll get back to you. I saw the pic though, never seen that happen to be honest with you. I'll review it and get back to you k.

 

[Digger]

@Digger Hey brother, sorry I have been MIA for a while, just busy as a mother fucker. Let me review this and I'll get back to you. I saw the pic though, never seen that happen to be honest with you. I'll review it and get back to you k.

Hell yea bro, got the man himself on the case!