Expectations for first time

[mrc0703]

Where do i start.........Stats 6'2 255 not sure but 16-18%BF
My problem lies in i feel like a kid in a candy store ...every time i feel like i want to do this cycle ....another thread pops up w/ something else i like LOL...but what i realize is i have never done AAS and i need experienced users to aid in my quest to achieve the desired results i want....Heres what i want to try cause i feel i should use Test as my first cycle ...i need to see how my body reacts to it and also how much i can tolerate....i want to use Sust250
250mg first 2 week 7 days apart then next shot 6 days ..5....4...3..2....just to see ...if i feel like something not right push it off a day or 2....i want to gain lean mass off my first cycle ....keep the diet very clean ..but im also in 2 bball leagues and cant be hustling down the court at 275 that would be to much weight..... want to know what you guys think of this as a first cycle and also what result i can expect ?.....

i was looking at prop and trenE but feel its to much for a first time user and also cant see myself coming out of the gate giving shots EOD

 

[RH81]

250mgs of TEST 200 is what I started off in my first cycle,I grew but I'll be the first to admit I wasted the money lol,but the 'roids did give me a mental 'edge' to push harder and still gain,even with a pathetic diet,...bump up the TEST to about 500mgs,go with test enanthate so you will only have to shoot twice a week,250mgs Monday and 250 Thursday.To 'jump' off your cycle add 40mgs of Dianabol everyday for the first 4 weeks...that cycle alone will give you good gains,especially being your first cycle...your diet will be the key to whether you gain quality muscle.With Sustanon you should shoot basically every other day to take full advantage of it,that's why I say your better off going with Test Enanthate,and use the DBO to give you a kickstart.

Basically what I'm saying is keep it simple,and make sure you do your homework,you don't need an ass load of gear to make good gains if you know what your'e doin.

Remember the PCT as well,a lotta newbies don't even know what nolvadex is.

 

[joel]

i hate asking newb questions but their is only one way to find out what is nolvadex

 

[RH81]

i hate asking newb questions but their is only one way to find out what is nolvadex

Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen compound.

Here is more on Nolvadex taken at this link...enjoy!

EDITED

Robbie, links to other boards are not allowed. When Meso has so much first class information, why would you go to the trouble of posting a link to refer someone to which is on another board?
As regards your answer to mrc, that's good advice.

Joel, here's the link with the answer to your question:
https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/nolvadex/

MaxRep

 

[mrc0703]

Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen compound.

Here is more on Nolvadex taken at this link...enjoy!

EDITED

Robbie, links to other boards are not allowed. When Meso has so much first class information, why would you go to the trouble of posting a link to refer someone to which is on another board?
As regards your answer to mrc, that's good advice.

Joel, here's the link with the answer to your question:
https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/nolvadex/

MaxRep

When should i start the nolvadex and also how much ? considering the Test E will be in my system an additional 2 weeks after the last shot

 

[patsfan]

When should i start the nolvadex and also how much ? considering the Test E will be in my system an additional 2 weeks after the last shot

It really depends on how you react to test (itchy/painfull nips).
I dont get it from test but I have noticed a little from the tren I just started. I use 25mgs every other day on cycle but I would say 25-50 mg's a day is average. You want some estrogen floating around so I would test your tolerance...then start low and go up. Also Armidex would be a better alternative to nolva...Heritic has both of them cheap.

As to PCT dosage...after day 10 of HCG you want to run 50mg's of nolva for 30 days.

 

[mrc0703]

It really depends on how you react to test (itchy/painfull nips).
I dont get it from test but I have noticed a little from the tren I just started. I use 25mgs every other day on cycle but I would say 25-50 mg's a day is average. You want some estrogen floating around so I would test your tolerance...then start low and go up. Also Armidex would be a better alternative to nolva...Heritic has both of them cheap.

As to PCT dosage...after day 10 of HCG you want to run 50mg's of nolva for 30 days.

Heres what its looking like then

First cycle.

Age: 29
Weight: 255
Height: 6'2
Bodyfat: 16- 18 %

Week 1-4 40 mg/ED Dbol
Week 1-12 500 mg/week Testosterone enanthate
Week 14 -16 PCT as described below

Day 1-3 - 100 mg Clomid + 40 mg Nolva
Day 4-11 - 50 mg Clomid + 20 mg Nolva
Day 12-21 - 25 mg Clomid + 10 mg Nolva

Injections:
monday 250 mg.
thursday 250 mg.

looking to bulk w/ gaining minimal fat
i think about 4000 calories ED lean foods?

How does it look so far?

 

[RH81]

Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen compound.

Here is more on Nolvadex taken at this link...enjoy!

EDITED

Robbie, links to other boards are not allowed. When Meso has so much first class information, why would you go to the trouble of posting a link to refer someone to which is on another board?
As regards your answer to mrc, that's good advice.

Joel, here's the link with the answer to your question:
https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/nolvadex/

MaxRep

Oops,my bad Max...I meant to post the link you just posted,just got confused as to which board it was on...sorry.

 

[RH81]

When should i start the nolvadex and also how much ? considering the Test E will be in my system an additional 2 weeks after the last shot

Start your Nolvadex(pct) two weeks after your last Enathate shot...UNLESS you start getting signs of Gyno early in your cycle(puffy or itchy nips),then start taking Nolva immediately until the symptoms abate.

 

[borderbound]

i dont think 4000 cal a day will be enough for a bulking cycle if your starting at a weight of 255 unless you have an office job

 

[desert]

i dont think 4000 cal a day will be enough for a bulking cycle if your starting at a weight of 255 unless you have an office job

Is it just me or is 18% body fat too much for a bulker. Shouldn't he be cutting down to around 10-12% before bulking? High blood pressure issues, etc...

 

[mrc0703]

Is it just me or is 18% body fat too much for a bulker. Shouldn't he be cutting down to around 10-12% before bulking? High blood pressure issues, etc...

Right now im taking ECA and clen 2 week rotations to come down to 230...never took either before so i hope this is a obtainable goal..before i start AAS