Feedback on my cycle please

[parachute]

Gimme your feedback on my upcoming 2nd cycle, below.

Background: On trt for a few years, did a 6 week cycle of test cyp, test prop and Tren ace that finished up mid Nov. Will begin this second cycle after the holidays, giving myself 8+ weeks off cycle (except for my trt). 37 y/o, 220lbs or so, probably 15-16% BF these days. Goal is an offseason BB bulking stack.


Weeks 1-8: test cyp @200mg/week (my TRT dose)

Weeks 1-8 sustanon @250mg/week

Week 1-5 dbol 50mg ED

Week 1-8 Tren E 300mg/week (pinning 150mg 2x each week)

Some questions:
Sustanon: pin 2x per week? Long water half life is 4 days. How often do other pin sust?

Kick starting/front loading: Any advantage to frontloading a heavier dosage of dbol or Tren e for weeks1-2?





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[Brandaddy]

Gimme your feedback on my upcoming 2nd cycle, below.

Background: On trt for a few years, did a 6 week cycle of test cyp, test prop and Tren ace that finished up mid Nov. Will begin this second cycle after the holidays, giving myself 8+ weeks off cycle (except for my trt). 37 y/o, 220lbs or so, probably 15-16% BF these days. Goal is an offseason BB bulking stack.


Weeks 1-8: test cyp @200mg/week (my TRT dose)

Weeks 1-8 sustanon @250mg/week

Week 1-5 dbol 50mg ED

Week 1-8 Tren E 300mg/week (pinning 150mg 2x each week)

Some questions:
Sustanon: pin 2x per week? Long water half life is 4 days. How often do other pin sust?

Kick starting/front loading: Any advantage to frontloading a heavier dosage of dbol or Tren e for weeks1-2?





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I have a couple questions before I throw in my two cents.

1. Why use sustanon when you already have test cyp? Just up the dose of test cyp.

2. Why tren e for 8 weeks? If you're going 8 weeks, why not tren a?

Now to throw in my two cents. Sustanon only needs to be pinned once a week considering you already have your trt base. In my opinion I think sustanon is inferior to test e/c though. You don't need to increase the dbol, honestly if your dbol is any good you only need 30mg's to put on some good size. If you already bought the tren e, I'd consider extending to 12 weeks because the longer esters don't really usually start to kick ass until a good 5-6 in, you definitely don't want to stop right when it's getting good. If you're bent on the 8 weeks though, you could try front loading it. Basically just double dose your first couple shots.

 

[parachute]

Answers:
1. Why sust: I want to try it, have heard good things. Nothing more complicated than that

2. Why not Tren ace instead of Tren e for 8 weeks: because pinning ED and even EOD was a hassles when I did it on prior cycle.


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[Erőspista lol]

Your cycle is a little bit different but doesn't mean it's wrong!
But probably your cycle it's can be more effective if you are not trying to be focusing for 8 weeks! I do have couple of options how would I do, but you don't have to follow anybody!


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[Just Fish]

Gimme your feedback on my upcoming 2nd cycle, below.

Background: On trt for a few years, did a 6 week cycle of test cyp, test prop and Tren ace that finished up mid Nov. Will begin this second cycle after the holidays, giving myself 8+ weeks off cycle (except for my trt). 37 y/o, 220lbs or so, probably 15-16% BF these days. Goal is an offseason BB bulking stack.


Weeks 1-8: test cyp @200mg/week (my TRT dose)

Weeks 1-8 sustanon @250mg/week

Week 1-5 dbol 50mg ED

Week 1-8 Tren E 300mg/week (pinning 150mg 2x each week)

Some questions:
Sustanon: pin 2x per week? Long water half life is 4 days. How often do other pin sust?

Kick starting/front loading: Any advantage to frontloading a heavier dosage of dbol or Tren e for weeks1-2?





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I agree with just taking more test e and dropping sustanon. You should also do at least 10 weeks. Your already on Trt why not? Just monitor your bloods

 

[Just Fish]

Gimme your feedback on my upcoming 2nd cycle, below.

Background: On trt for a few years, did a 6 week cycle of test cyp, test prop and Tren ace that finished up mid Nov. Will begin this second cycle after the holidays, giving myself 8+ weeks off cycle (except for my trt). 37 y/o, 220lbs or so, probably 15-16% BF these days. Goal is an offseason BB bulking stack.


Weeks 1-8: test cyp @200mg/week (my TRT dose)

Weeks 1-8 sustanon @250mg/week

Week 1-5 dbol 50mg ED

Week 1-8 Tren E 300mg/week (pinning 150mg 2x each week)

Some questions:
Sustanon: pin 2x per week? Long water half life is 4 days. How often do other pin sust?

Kick starting/front loading: Any advantage to frontloading a heavier dosage of dbol or Tren e for weeks1-2?





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How did the tren ace work for your first cycle? That's pretty ballsy

 

[parachute]

Tren ace for first cycle was fine for me. I think it was good to go with short ester and only for 6 weeks. I found pinning EOD was just as effective as ED. Gained and kept about 5lbs of muscle, no severe sides. All in all was a win I'd say


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[Hotrods12]

Ive run Tren E a few times and with me, I start growing at week six and make gains all the way till week 15 no longer. so I would run it for atleast 10 weeks, 12 is better, I would use ace if you want 8 weeks

 

[legendary]

I would use tren a if only 8 weeks. You can pin eod. But ur call man. Maybe save your test C and use 500mg sust wk.

 

[Just Fish]

Tren ace for first cycle was fine for me. I think it was good to go with short ester and only for 6 weeks. I found pinning EOD was just as effective as ED. Gained and kept about 5lbs of muscle, no severe sides. All in all was a win I'd say


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5lbs in 6 weeks? Dam I can come close to that natty.

 

[parachute]

Oh good for you, did you just start training? I was the same way for the first few years


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[legendary]

5lbs in 6 weeks? Dam I can come close to that natty.

Lol no u can't . If you could juice would be a stupid option. Stay natty if you gain that fast

 

[Just Fish]

Oh good for you, did you just start training? I was the same way for the first few years


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I've been training on and off for 15 years. I was out of the gym for a few years due to back injury. I went from 225lbs 16%bf to 215lbs 25%bf. I've been back training for just over a year. The whole time I've been cutting so not putting on much muscle. I have always put on muscle very fast. I am lucky I have amazing genetics. I have just started eating a small surplus of calories and am growing fast now.

 

[parachute]

Yeah I believe 5lbs of trash weight in 6 weeks. I probably gained approx 20lbs total on 6 week cycle, only 5lbs of those was lean muscle mass. If you are an experienced lifter and you
Can gain a lb a week naturally, shit my hats off to you, I don't think a young Ronnie Coleman or Yaz could bulk like that but I guess if you say so...


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[Just Fish]

Lol no u can't . If you could juice would be a stupid option. Stay natty if you gain that fast

I found out I had very low t last year it was under 200tt on a few tests. I've been on Androgel for the last year. I had only done two 4 week superdrol only cycles previously in my early twenties. I just started test e today at Trt doses. I plan on cycling soon because fuckit why not my natural t is gone anyway. When life gives you lemons might as well make lemonade

 

[legendary]

So even with low t you gain 5lbs muscle in 6 wk? You should be in Olympia if u can gain a solid 43lb a year.

 

[Just Fish]

Yeah I believe 5lbs of trash weight in 6 weeks. I probably gained approx 20lbs total on 6 week cycle, only 5lbs of those was lean muscle mass. If you are an experienced lifter and you
Can gain a lb a week naturally, shit my hats off to you, I don't think a young Ronnie Coleman or Yaz could bulk like that but I guess if you say so...


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I definitely missed my calling. Injuries and fear of needles kept me from trying to make a run for pro. I plan on cheating from here on out but keep an eye on my stats.

 

[Just Fish]

So even with low t you gain 5lbs muscle in 6 wk? You should be in Olympia if u can gain a solid 43lb a year.

That's impossible you do hit plateau's. And being on Androgel my tt was 600 so I wouldn't call that low. The most weight I ever put on was 50lbs in two years in my very early twenties. I did use two 4 week superdrol cycles though. Well really only 1 and a half because the second one I cut short cause I was feeling like shit.

 

[NeedleCheeks]

You should probably use prop instead of sust. Sust has esters that are going to linger in your system for a while. Prop starts quick and clears quick. And tren ace instead of enanthate cuz you're only going 8 weeks. So yeah you should probably switch it up. 8 weeks prop 8 weeks tren ace. You'll see better results and have less of a chance of your TRT doc wondering why your test levels are so high because of those lingering long esters in the sust.

 

[NeedleCheeks]

You'll be disappointed in your results with tren E for 8 weeks, I guarantee that.