First cycle log: Test E only

[Rifleman0]

I have decided to go ahead with my first cycle. After a lot of research a Test E only cycle seems the way to go.

My plan is..
12 weeks of Test E 600mg EW, Tues/Fri 300mg

The Test I have is 300mg/ml so that is the reason I will be going away from the standard 500mg EW cycle.

Weeks 2-12 .25mg EOD of Arimidex.

PCT will start 3-4 weeks after the last pin. It will consist of Clomid at 100/100/50/50 and Nolva at 40/40/20/20


I have included my pre-cycle labs in this post, let me know if anything seems off or needs adjusting.

 

[Eloquence]

Any diet plans? This will make or break everything.

Most people will say 250 2x per week. And honestly I have the same size vial and that is a lame reason to up a dosage the first time.

When do u start.

 

[BIGMESC]

How about some pre-stats rifleman.

 

[Rifleman0]

Big mesc, you can see some of my stats in my first post here.

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/to-cycle-or-not-to-cycle-that-is-the-question.134356139/

Jujus, Yes I have a diet plan that I have been on awhile and recently tightened up just for this cycle. Basic high protein, medium amount of carbs and low fat diet.

You posted in your own thread yesterday you had planned the same cycle basically. Why the change of heart? I just am not sure what the difference would be from .85ml to 1ml

 

[Eloquence]

Because homies I respect suggested to start at 500.

You can always bump it up once you know how u feel and react to it. I am running tbol to feel the kick asap.

Sick tatoo btw.

 

[Rifleman0]

And I can respect that, Jujus.

If multiple people tell me I need to back it down to 500mg I will. I was just leaning to the side of knowing exactly (in theory) how much I was pinning at 1 full ML.

 

[Burrr]

For your first cycle, 7/8 of a cc should do the trick. That will put you at the 500mg a week mark. It is a good level for a first cycle, and if your gear is good should have you with a serum level 4000+. Do some mid cycle bloods to see just how your gear is dosed, and how your adex is working for you. Do the bloodwork the day after pinning.
How did the rest of your bloodwork look? platelets, hemoglobins and crits, liver values, etc.

 

[Burrr]

All in all a very sensible first cycle, it shows that you did some research.

 

[Rifleman0]

Thanks Burrr! Been trying to read and research as much as I can.

I will do my pins at 7/8th to get me to that 500mg mark.

Will be doing mid cycle labs 6 weeks in. The rest of the blood work looks great. Well within limits (as specified on the results) Think I should post the rest?

 

[Burrr]

Thanks Burrr! Been trying to read and research as much as I can.

I will do my pins at 7/8th to get me to that 500mg mark.

Will be doing mid cycle labs 6 weeks in. The rest of the blood work looks great. Well within limits (as specified on the results) Think I should post the rest?

If all your values are in the normal range you are good to go.

 

[HuckingFuge]

you should look into TRT or HRT IMHO. you will not keep your gains, cause you will resort back to your natural Test level which is low for keeping muscle.

 

[Burrr]

you should look into TRT or HRT IMHO. you will not keep your gains, cause you will resort back to your natural Test level which is low for keeping muscle.

No DR would put you TRT with a 588 serum level. I would not even consider a lifetime of TRT with levels that are normal to begin with.

 

[Rifleman0]

My serum is within the limits on the results, but on the lower side I'm sure for a 27 year old.

 

[HuckingFuge]

My serum is within the limits on the results, but on the lower side I'm sure for a 27 year old.

men peak between 25 and 30, after 30 we all decline. doing a cycle at 500mg Test should put you well over1200 serum. than you do PCT go back to natural and expect 588 serum to maintain your muscle, wishful thinking. 200mg TRT should put your serum at 1200. I don't care what anyone does, cause it is their bodies. I'm only making a suggestion to look into TRT or HRT.

 

[A-a-Ron]

I think you'd have better end results by extending your cycle out a few extra weeks at 500 mg than doing the extra 100 a week.

 

[Eloquence]

For a first cycle ie there any benefit past 12 weeks? What I've read is that the hpta gets supressed the most and the andro receptors grow a tolerance around that point.

 

[A-a-Ron]

Some people go as long as 3 months and still have gains. I'm lucky in the sense that I'm not sensitive to sides. What I like to do is go for 10 weeks at 500 mg a week, and then I go five weeks at a maintenance level of 250 mg a week. I am 39 and have a test level on the lower end of normal, so I just treat the end as a TRT session to maintain gains and to keep my energy level up.

 

[alphastrength50]

id rec starting low dose and ramping up the test throughout the course ie. weeks 1-5 500mg test e weeks 6-12 600mg test e

 

[ToxicEuphoria]

One thing that wasn't mentioned: personally I would not take the adex at all unless you start to see symptoms of elevated estrogen related issues. Unless of course you have had non AAS gyno in the past.. An AI taken when it's not needed will inhibit gains and cause problems (mood swings, fatigue, loss of appetite ect.) Good luck on your cycle brother!

 

[Rifleman0]

I moved my pin days up to Sun/Wed so I pinned last night for the 1st time. I did 500mg, injection went smooth. A little bit of soreness today but nothing extreme.

One thing that wasn't mentioned: personally I would not take the adex at all unless you start to see symptoms of elevated estrogen related issues. Unless of course you have had non AAS gyno in the past.. An AI taken when it's not needed will inhibit gains and cause problems (mood swings, fatigue, loss of appetite ect.) Good luck on your cycle brother!

@ToxicEuphoria I had read before that you shouldn't start a cycle without a AI. Should I hold off until symptoms arise? What should I be looking for? Sore nipples? bloating?