First cycle taughts

Juiced4dayz

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Looking for thoughts on a first cycle from a few veterans and long time juicers as I've been researching for the past few months but because there is so much information and mixed opinions on things I'm still a bit undecided on pct and how to bounce back properly after this cycle .

Stats
84kg (185 pounds)
6ft or just about
Traning for 3 years hard and heavy 6 days a week
Bench 115kg 1rm
Squat 160kg 1rm
Deadlift 190kg
Db shoulder press 40 kilo dumbbells for 5rm
Been thinking about the cycle for a while now and trying to get as much info as I can to do this a safe as possible.
Will be getting pre cycle bloods and post cycle bloods couple weeks after pct

Proposed cycle
Test E 500mg
Wk 1-12 Might extend to 15 wks.
Also thinking about taking anavar for the last 4 weeks as I've been wanting to try this oral and only planning to cycle this once and come off for a while with no intentions of another one for a good while ,
So maybe anavar.
Wk 8-12
Hcg wk 4 or 6 till wk 12 ? 250ug twice week
Also confused on when is best to use hcg from reading the comprehensive guide to pct which is stickied on meso he recommends hcg during cycle but yet michael scally recommends blasting hcg for 20 days ? Also have read about swale hcg protocol might use this and thoughts or advice will be greatly appreciated
Also a bit undecided about best way to use nolva and clomid
Will start pct 3 weeks or 4 after last pin ?
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20 ?
Or comid first for 2 weeks or so then add in nolva ?
Also will have arimdex on hand but also undecided on a dosage maybe .25 every other day or 3 days ...
Is this to much or to little don't want to crash estrogen and also don't want any nasty sides want this cycle to really have an effect on my physique
Any advice from long timers and veterans would be great thanks !
 
Looks like a pretty well thought out cycle. I'm not the most knowledgeable or experienced user. My insight on your cycle is this. Hcg at 250 twice a week from week four on is good. I wouldn't start pct for a miminium of 4 weeks after last pin. As for the adex, the only way to know if it is needed is with mid cycle blood work at around six weeks. Hope this helps and good luck
 
Looks like a pretty well thought out cycle. I'm not the most knowledgeable or experienced user. My insight on your cycle is this. Hcg at 250 twice a week from week four on is good. I wouldn't start pct for a miminium of 4 weeks after last pin. As for the adex, the only way to know if it is needed is with mid cycle blood work at around six weeks. Hope this helps and good luck
Thanks for the reply will more than likely start hcg half way through cycle or 4 weeks from the end , probably won't be getting blood work done in the middle but just at the end so will maybe take adex .25mg every other day or 3 days from week 2 or 3
 
Had first pin yesterday in the morning when I got my gear , first pin was a disaster , syringe was acting up and took about 3 attnepts to get all of it out of the amp then I had ended up with about .8ml and pinned and felt like I hit a nerve or something so pulled it out straight away , then pinned again with a different needle because trying to avoid any chance of infection , went again and aspirated or at least tried to anyway , then found it very hard to push oil in but eventually got it all in then masseaged it in for a minute or so , hopefully next pin goes smoother than this ! Then went on with my day after college went to the gym and hit a good shoulders biceps and triceps workout , only thing is I'm already impatient wanting to feel the effects getting bigger and stronger
 
Had first pin yesterday in the morning when I got my gear , first pin was a disaster , syringe was acting up and took about 3 attnepts to get all of it out of the amp then I had ended up with about .8ml and pinned and felt like I hit a nerve or something so pulled it out straight away , then pinned again with a different needle because trying to avoid any chance of infection , went again and aspirated or at least tried to anyway , then found it very hard to push oil in but eventually got it all in then masseaged it in for a minute or so , hopefully next pin goes smoother than this ! Then went on with my day after college went to the gym and hit a good shoulders biceps and triceps workout , only thing is I'm already impatient wanting to feel the effects getting bigger and stronger

Remember dude it’s not a sprint is a marathon. Don’t wait and want rushes results. Be patient my friend and enjoy the ride. I’d recommend taking a progress picture every so often so at the end of the cycle you can truly see your results. Hope all goes well.
 
Remember dude it’s not a sprint is a marathon. Don’t wait and want rushes results. Be patient my friend and enjoy the ride. I’d recommend taking a progress picture every so often so at the end of the cycle you can truly see your results. Hope all goes well.
Yeah man , I guess I am just excited for it to kick in , yeah I might post of pictures soon and then a few progress picks along the way cheers
 
Thanks for the reply will more than likely start hcg half way through cycle or 4 weeks from the end , probably won't be getting blood work done in the middle but just at the end so will maybe take adex .25mg every other day or 3 days from week 2 or 3
I didn't relize how young you are. You shouldn't be messing with gear at your age
 
Assuming you are 20, stop immediately. Your test levels are in there prime, eat big, learn to really train hard(a long time(years)) Then when you are 27 plus or so re think this out.

Absolutely no reason to chance it this early in my opinion.
 
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