Hey everyone, this is my first post. I've been a longtime lurker at multiple forums involving bodybuilding, lifting, anabolics, etc. Please refer to me as cc or cpc. Before I jump straight to my plan/goals, let me tell you a little about myself.
I am currently 21 years old. I started lifting when I was about 13 (very mildly). Once I turned 15 I began going to the gym and training 3-5 times per week. I followed this schedule almost religiously, changing my routine up when necessary, for 5 years. In this time period I've had 3 personal trainers (In order to learn proper form, discipline, and techniques) so that I would maximize my gains. I am 6' and around 185-190lbs. My max bench is near 300. I cannot give exact stats atm because the past 6 months I was unable to go (first time ever stopping for over 6 weeks.)
Anyways, I'm finally back into the game and have been preparing for my first cycle in the near future. I have never taken any real steroid, and have come to seek criticism and any possible tips/suggestions. I have approximately 3 years of research on this topic thanks to the help of your forum and several others. I started researching when I was 18 to prepare for any future use.
Since 18, I have done four cycles of varying pro-hormones. I began with one of the most mild (decadrol I believe) in order to observe my bodies reaction. I then moved up to Halodrol, then sd and finally ultradrol stacked with trenazone. I completed each with a proper PCT (clomid) and cycle assist (TUDCA). I am extremely health concious and come from a family of medical doctors. Any sort of anabolic i have used was accompanied with proper liver tests and testosterone levels. Please do not give any feedback regarding my age. I am strictly looking for criticism/feedback on the quality and structure of my cycle planned only. If you are truly concerned, feel free to PM me and I will happily discuss it there with you.
Cycle:
Currently, I have three vials of Tesosterone enanthate 250/ml set to arrive in the mail within the next week or two. My plan is to run 500 x 12-16 weeks (I will buy another vial if I decide to do the latter).
For an AI I plan to use Liquid Stane 25/25/25/25... I am curious as to whether I should be taking this exactly from day 1 to the end of my cycle, or perhaps 4 weeks into it (about the time when the Test E begins to take effect) I have read various methods of using an AI, ranging from using after gyno symptoms start to appear, to throughout the entire cycle to be safe. I would love an opinion on this and perhaps a personal preference from any of you.
For PCT, because of familiarity I will be using Clomid over Nolvadex. I was told that using both can potentially significantly increase adverse side effects. Two weeks after my last pin, I plan on using clomid for 3 weeks at 200 day one, followed by a weekly pattern of 100/100/50. Once again any alternative dosage suggestions are 100% welcome.
Expectations
After reading through an abundance of logs, information sites, etc. I have come to the conclusion that due to the varying individual differences amongst each person (physiology, circumstances, diet, age, and other confounding variables), it would not be possible for me to realistically/accurately predict any gains. One thing that i am surprised about constantly is the lack of a control measure (a substance free cycle log for at least a month) which would record your natural gains prior to running a real cycle. I feel that, especially with prohormones, running a cycle with no prior natural log to use as a comparison for people to view makes the results of your log a lot less credible. How does one know simply that the particular person who ran the log, is not capable of the majority of his gains on his own. For this reason, come October 1st I will be posting a one month log of my natural gains in order to have a basis for comparison so that I may make improvements to any future ones, as well as hopefully help those still researching.
A few more things:
So, as you guys can hopefully tell I am not going to be starting this cycle for a little over a month, but will post my "anabolic free" gains and log them for a month. In this time period I hope to receive some constructive criticism and make some alterations to my current plan to get the most out of it.
I am mainly focused on the amount of testosterone I should be taking for the cycle duration. Given how well I responded to the pro-hormone cycles, as well as my age, body type (mesomorph) etc. I am hoping my current dosing alone will produce sufficient, noticeable lean muscle mass gains. I am not meant to be a large, very bulky looking athlete. I obviously do bulking and cutting cycles. However the majority of my mass usually is lean, dry gains with significant weight gain but not a lot of fat even during a bulking phase. I maintain anywhere from 10% bf before my 6 month break, to roughly 15% at its highest. My diet consists of a little more than 6000 calories a day. I typically do 1.5gram/lb in protein a day, combined with a lot of carbs from nuts and pasta usually, and proper viatmins, essential amino acids, non essential, and fruits within my shakes. My diet is of utmost importance to me whether or not i am lifting.
My final inquiry is whether or not the addition of equipoise with less or the same amount of test E would be beneficial to me. As much as I love lifting, I was also a long time runner in cross country type events (marathons, 5ks etc) as well as quarter mile sprints. This is my reason (aside from inexperience) that I do not wish to try bulking steroids (dianabol) and am sticking to testosterone, the possible addition of EQ. And i know this is a lot of information but if anyone has any input on Primo, I had looked into that as well. I know it is expensive however if it seems appropriate given my circumstances, and somebody has some solid info to help a bro out, I have no problem spending the extra money on a cycle of that. Thanks and lemme know that you thing
I am currently 21 years old. I started lifting when I was about 13 (very mildly). Once I turned 15 I began going to the gym and training 3-5 times per week. I followed this schedule almost religiously, changing my routine up when necessary, for 5 years. In this time period I've had 3 personal trainers (In order to learn proper form, discipline, and techniques) so that I would maximize my gains. I am 6' and around 185-190lbs. My max bench is near 300. I cannot give exact stats atm because the past 6 months I was unable to go (first time ever stopping for over 6 weeks.)
Anyways, I'm finally back into the game and have been preparing for my first cycle in the near future. I have never taken any real steroid, and have come to seek criticism and any possible tips/suggestions. I have approximately 3 years of research on this topic thanks to the help of your forum and several others. I started researching when I was 18 to prepare for any future use.
Since 18, I have done four cycles of varying pro-hormones. I began with one of the most mild (decadrol I believe) in order to observe my bodies reaction. I then moved up to Halodrol, then sd and finally ultradrol stacked with trenazone. I completed each with a proper PCT (clomid) and cycle assist (TUDCA). I am extremely health concious and come from a family of medical doctors. Any sort of anabolic i have used was accompanied with proper liver tests and testosterone levels. Please do not give any feedback regarding my age. I am strictly looking for criticism/feedback on the quality and structure of my cycle planned only. If you are truly concerned, feel free to PM me and I will happily discuss it there with you.
Cycle:
Currently, I have three vials of Tesosterone enanthate 250/ml set to arrive in the mail within the next week or two. My plan is to run 500 x 12-16 weeks (I will buy another vial if I decide to do the latter).
For an AI I plan to use Liquid Stane 25/25/25/25... I am curious as to whether I should be taking this exactly from day 1 to the end of my cycle, or perhaps 4 weeks into it (about the time when the Test E begins to take effect) I have read various methods of using an AI, ranging from using after gyno symptoms start to appear, to throughout the entire cycle to be safe. I would love an opinion on this and perhaps a personal preference from any of you.
For PCT, because of familiarity I will be using Clomid over Nolvadex. I was told that using both can potentially significantly increase adverse side effects. Two weeks after my last pin, I plan on using clomid for 3 weeks at 200 day one, followed by a weekly pattern of 100/100/50. Once again any alternative dosage suggestions are 100% welcome.
Expectations
After reading through an abundance of logs, information sites, etc. I have come to the conclusion that due to the varying individual differences amongst each person (physiology, circumstances, diet, age, and other confounding variables), it would not be possible for me to realistically/accurately predict any gains. One thing that i am surprised about constantly is the lack of a control measure (a substance free cycle log for at least a month) which would record your natural gains prior to running a real cycle. I feel that, especially with prohormones, running a cycle with no prior natural log to use as a comparison for people to view makes the results of your log a lot less credible. How does one know simply that the particular person who ran the log, is not capable of the majority of his gains on his own. For this reason, come October 1st I will be posting a one month log of my natural gains in order to have a basis for comparison so that I may make improvements to any future ones, as well as hopefully help those still researching.
A few more things:
So, as you guys can hopefully tell I am not going to be starting this cycle for a little over a month, but will post my "anabolic free" gains and log them for a month. In this time period I hope to receive some constructive criticism and make some alterations to my current plan to get the most out of it.
I am mainly focused on the amount of testosterone I should be taking for the cycle duration. Given how well I responded to the pro-hormone cycles, as well as my age, body type (mesomorph) etc. I am hoping my current dosing alone will produce sufficient, noticeable lean muscle mass gains. I am not meant to be a large, very bulky looking athlete. I obviously do bulking and cutting cycles. However the majority of my mass usually is lean, dry gains with significant weight gain but not a lot of fat even during a bulking phase. I maintain anywhere from 10% bf before my 6 month break, to roughly 15% at its highest. My diet consists of a little more than 6000 calories a day. I typically do 1.5gram/lb in protein a day, combined with a lot of carbs from nuts and pasta usually, and proper viatmins, essential amino acids, non essential, and fruits within my shakes. My diet is of utmost importance to me whether or not i am lifting.
My final inquiry is whether or not the addition of equipoise with less or the same amount of test E would be beneficial to me. As much as I love lifting, I was also a long time runner in cross country type events (marathons, 5ks etc) as well as quarter mile sprints. This is my reason (aside from inexperience) that I do not wish to try bulking steroids (dianabol) and am sticking to testosterone, the possible addition of EQ. And i know this is a lot of information but if anyone has any input on Primo, I had looked into that as well. I know it is expensive however if it seems appropriate given my circumstances, and somebody has some solid info to help a bro out, I have no problem spending the extra money on a cycle of that. Thanks and lemme know that you thing
