First cycle. Want to hear what MESO has to say.

[jlatly]

So, I finally got everything together for my first cycle. Here is what I'm planning:

Cycle
500mg test enan/w 12 weeks
25mg dbol/ed weeks 1-4
Thinking about 37.5mg tren suspension pwo weeks 9-12 since I have a 20ml bottle dosed at 75mg/ml what are your thoughts on this?
I have aromasin. Should I take 12.5mg eod or just as needed?

Now with pct I'm not really sure what to do I've heard so many different ways of doing it. I have Nolva and clomid on hand. What would be the best way to implement these? I can get adex if needed.

Thanks for your input bros.

 

[BuffnStuff]

Come on now...Test and Dbol will be plenty for you. Less is more specially when you first start.
Test E 250mg a week/12 weeks
D-bol 50 mg ed/12 weeks (4 on /2 off/4 on) then)

 

[jlatly]

BTW, I'm 33, 5'11", and 205lbs.

 

[jlatly]

Come on now...Test and Dbol will be plenty for you. Less is more specially when you first start.
Test E 250mg a week/12 weeks
D-bol 50 mg ed/12 weeks (4 on /2 off/4 on) then)

I don't want to pussy foot around. First cycle is the the best cycle right? I don't want to look back on it and think "damn I could a done better". 250/w of test seems kinda low and I'm not too keen on using a large amount of orals. I am only playing with the idea of using the suspension right now. I'm probably not going to use it but if I feel it's a viable option when the time comes I'm gonna pin it.

 

[lightspan]

Your plan is fine, less the tren. Don't be a cowboy. You're 31, you know better than to do the "YOLO" shit. Learn to manage estro sides before you throw a 19-nor in the mix.

Test e, 500 mg a week for 12 weeks is a great first cycle. If you really want more, add the dbol at 50 mg a day for 4 weeks as a kick start.

More is not always better. Read a few "test only" first cycle logs. No one is complaining. You've got plenty of time to throw other compounds in future cycles. Let your body, and you, get to know test and how it affects you.

Rule of thumb - only one new compound per cycle, so you know which compound is doing what.

Good luck.

 

[Gettinbigger76]

I don't want to pussy foot around. First cycle is the the best cycle right? I don't want to look back on it and think "damn I could a done better". 250/w of test seems kinda low and I'm not too keen on using a large amount of orals. I am only playing with the idea of using the suspension right now. I'm probably not going to use it but if I feel it's a viable option when the time comes I'm gonna pin it.

Hey brotha, I'm going to repeat what some and everyone will tell you. You really should drop the tren. It's not a first cycle compound. Yes, it yields amazing results, but that comes with a price. A price that is better paid after some time and experience. My first cycle ever was a 12 week run of test e at 500mgs a week and I put on 23lbs of lean muscle... Adding tren to that would've prob only put on an additional couple of pounds and a world of hurt. Please don't take the comments as condescending, merely trying to help. Plus it'll save ya a couple of bucks!!! Good luck

 

[jlatly]

I understand what you guys are saying but the half life of suspension is so short I didn't think it would hurt to play with it as a pwo.

 

[Gettinbigger76]

I understand what you guys are saying but the half life of suspension is so short I didn't think it would hurt to play with it as a pwo.

You're logic is correct, where as in, if the sides are too much, it will take less time to clear out, but what I think you might not realize is that those virgin receptors are going to react extremely well to the test alone. Take advantage of this time, where you don't have to spend the time,money and extra hard shut down to achieve similar results.

 

[lightspan]

I understand what you guys are saying but the half life of suspension is so short I didn't think it would hurt to play with it as a pwo.

I get a bit frustrated with these threads, and I'm going to voice it here. Sorry, jlatly, you are going to be the proxy for every dude who comes here, throws up a cycle, then fucking argues over every piece of advice they get. Seriously, why did you post this shit? So we would all agree with you? If you know better then don't waste our time asking for advice your going to ignore anyway.

I may be a bit hot from a bull elephant shot of TNE this morning, but fuck, if you need someone to validate you, get your girl to do it. You wanted advice from guys with experience, which you DO NOT HAVE. If you were an AAS guru, then I suppose you wouldn't be here.

I suggest a first cycle of 16 weeks, 1 g test/1 tren e a week. Let me know how that works for ya.

 

[jlatly]

I take no offense from what you said.

I am in no way looking for validation. I know full well test only is the way to go first cycle. I have these compounds on hand and was curious as to what the upsides and downsides would be for me running such a cycle. I know I'm going to get chastised for wanting to do crazy shit. I am definitely doing the dbol and only toying with the idea of using the suspension. I will likely save it for my second cycle anyway. As I said I'm just looking for experienced input, not validation.

 

[HuckingFuge]

if you are going to run Tren Susp why cut the dose in half? all compounds have a minimum dose they should be run. you do not get results just cause you stick a little bit in you.

 

[jlatly]

if you are going to run Tren Susp why cut the dose in half? all compounds have a minimum dose they should be run. you do not get results just cause you stick a little bit in you.

Because the man that makes it uses it at that dose and says it's a nice pwo boost without raising blood pressure too much.

 

[Izk]

Because the man that makes it uses it at that dose and says it's a nice pwo boost without raising blood pressure too much.

http://m.gnc.com/Sports-Nutrition/Pre-Workout/family.jsp?categoryId=3984282
These have way less sides than tren.

 

[Kubrick]

Test E 500mg per week. I would stick to that. You should see good results and it's easy to recover from. I don't like Dbol for a first time user. Stick to one substance and learn to control sides or else you'll be a big, jacked angry guy with bitch tits.