First DNP cycle - female

[naxrie]

Hello all,
I am a 20 year old female whom is currently on day 5 of 250 mg a day DNP. I've done research on DNP for the last 6 months, and finally decided to take the plunge. Yet I am not receiving the side effects as told by other users. Last two days I felt "slightly" warmer (barely at all), and I am now debating whether to up the dose to 500 mg or not. I am about 5'3 and between 120-130 lbs. I've handled large amounts of pill-type things before (although not illegal), and have done fine. I know DNP is different, hence why I want a second opinion. Also, what would be a relatively safe time to run this for? I was thinking 3-4 weeks if I continued with 250 mg, and maybe 2 weeks if I did the 500 mg. I was also thinking about going out next weekend, and was wondering exactly how long I should wait to consume alcohol after stopping DNP. It just seems impossible to find much on female DNP use.

 

[noachka]

Aside from not experiencing the expected side effects, do you have a reason to suspect your DNP might be bunk?

Usually it's commonplace to increase the dose after the 4th day, as you already know since you've been researching. Since you've gone 5 days with no/minimal effects, I would say it's ok to increase to 500 but try it just for one day to see how you feel. Try 500 and if you feel it then you know it's real. But maybe don't take 500 every single day until you're sure you can handle the higher doses. DNP has a long-enough half life to allow you to alternate between 500 and 250 every other day to ultimately reach an in-between level. That way you take much less risk than increasing it to 500, feeling good the first day, but realizing it's too much after 2 or 3 days of 500. That's my $0.02, anyway.

 

[beezil]

Noa,

Becareful giving suggestions.

I'm pretty sure you aren't qualified giving dosages for poisons!
I believe you are starting your first cycle as well.

When things go wrong with DNP it's no joke! People can die as a result.

Just because you aren't experiencing side effects doesn't mean the chemical isn't working.

 

[noachka]

I believe you are starting your first cycle as well.

Yep!

I'm pretty sure you aren't qualified giving dosages for poisons!

I absolutely am not qualified. Just like nobody else is qualified.

When things go wrong with DNP it's no joke! People can die as a result

DNP is definitely not to be messed around with. If the OP chooses to use DNP, she is taking that responsibility upon herself. Likewise, whether the OP chooses to act on what I suggested, to take advise from another poster, or to not take anybody's advice at all, that's on her; and I am sure she knows that.

I was simply sharing my opinion on the matter, and what I would do if I were in her position. And I quote:

That's my $0.02, anyway.

I believe I am entitled to share that as much as anyone else, whether it's my first cycle, my last cycle, or if I've never seen DNP nor ever intend to. Everything I said could be deducted from the research the OP says she did; sometimes it just helps to hear the same information from someone else. She can do what she wishes with that info.

Your comment would be better directed at the OP from the get go, instead of reminding her to be careful indirectly in a comment to me. Just saying

 

[loveyourbody]

Noachka- not trying to be rude or anything in that nature. But, since it's your first cycle I would just zip it seriously no offense once again. Don't F with dnp I say wait for the 5th day before you up you dosage. Most likely you won't feel anything for the first 3days. When I went to 500 a day I regretted it I regret even touching DNP.

On a side note if you can't lose weight by yourself at the age of 20 you shouldn't be touching anything. You just going to gain it back because you don't know decipline or diet.

 

[DieYoungStrong]

DNP is like the Wu Tang Clan - Ain't Nuthin' to Fuck With

 

[beezil]

noachka- not trying to be rude or anything in that nature. But, since it's your first cycle i would just zip it seriously no offense once again. Don't f with dnp i say wait for the 5th day before you up you dosage. Most likely you won't feel anything for the first 3days. When i went to 500 a day i regretted it i regret even touching dnp.

on a side note if you can't lose weight by yourself at the age of 20 you shouldn't be touching anything. You just going to gain it back because you don't know decipline or diet.

amen!

 

[beezil]

Yep!


I absolutely am not qualified. Just like nobody else is qualified.


DNP is definitely not to be messed around with. If the OP chooses to use DNP, she is taking that responsibility upon herself. Likewise, whether the OP chooses to act on what I suggested, to take advise from another poster, or to not take anybody's advice at all, that's on her; and I am sure she knows that.

I was simply sharing my opinion on the matter, and what I would do if I were in her position. And I quote:


I believe I am entitled to share that as much as anyone else, whether it's my first cycle, my last cycle, or if I've never seen DNP nor ever intend to. Everything I said could be deducted from the research the OP says she did; sometimes it just helps to hear the same information from someone else. She can do what she wishes with that info.

Your comment would be better directed at the OP from the get go, instead of reminding her to be careful indirectly in a comment to me. Just saying

your entitled to say as you please… I believe i fought for yours and my second amendment right to freedom of speech.

however, i am sure you wouldn't feel so good if the OP comes back with a horror story… or better yet her significant other reports back with a death. All because you gave her a bunch of BRO-SCIENCE based on posts you have read… and not actual experience or empirical data.

remember DNP builds in your system… just because your not feeling anything at 250mg… doesn't mean you should up your dose x 2. or even your up and down regimen….

Listen, don't take my banter as personal attacks. I just don't want to see anyone get hurt by DNP; again its a poison.

another note… how was that exam??

 

[stomps]

@Naxrie
Bezel is giving great advise
My advise stop taking that poison

Dnp has a really long half life so it continues to build in your system.
Because of this by the time you realize you have taken to much it's usually to late. Be careful

 

[naxrie]

Noachka- not trying to be rude or anything in that nature. But, since it's your first cycle I would just zip it seriously no offense once again. Don't F with dnp I say wait for the 5th day before you up you dosage. Most likely you won't feel anything for the first 3days. When I went to 500 a day I regretted it I regret even touching DNP.

On a side note if you can't lose weight by yourself at the age of 20 you shouldn't be touching anything. You just going to gain it back because you don't know decipline or diet.

Haha... diet and discipline? Funny you say that. Thing is I was severely anorexic for a couple years in my teens. After I gained weight back in the hospital, my metabolism was shot, so I would exercise up to 13 hours a day to lose weight again. Now that I am fully recovered, I'm stuck with a poor metabolism and numerous stress fractures/ shin splints/damaged tendons die to being a stupid kid. I do what I can to exercise (elliptical and light weights) but that still doesn't compensate for my abnormally low bmr.
So think before you judge please.

 

[Mike Oxbig]

DNP has been fatal at dosages of 20 mg/kg, for a 60kg female that is only 1200 mg. Who is to say your 250mg caps are really 250mg? It's not uncommon for black market drugs to be overdosed.

Moreover, you're also risking cataracts and they're not as rare as you might think. I believe Beezil acquired cataracts from DNP use and other Meso members have as well.

On top of that the sides are absolutely awful and the fat loss effects are probably comparable to clen/T3.

You're playing with fire. My advice would be to drop the DNP and pick up some clen or albuterol if you feel you need a push.

 

[beezil]

Haha... diet and discipline? Funny you say that. Thing is I was severely anorexic for a couple years in my teens. After I gained weight back in the hospital, my metabolism was shot, so I would exercise up to 13 hours a day to lose weight again. Now that I am fully recovered, I'm stuck with a poor metabolism and numerous stress fractures/ shin splints/damaged tendons die to being a stupid kid. I do what I can to exercise (elliptical and light weights) but that still doesn't compensate for my abnormally low bmr.
So think before you judge please.

If your metabolism Is what you say it is....

You need to gain muscle mass to help stoke the fire.

Taking dnp won't help... Especially when you stop and your metabolism really slows from a suppressed thyroid. Compliments of dnp.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

The risks associated with the use of DNP are significant and need to be considered carefully before proceeding. The FDA banned it in the 1930's for a reason. Using it to lose a few pounds is not worth it, IMO, especially when there are safer alternatives available.

You'll find a link below to an excellent review on DNP that Dr Jim posted a while ago. Anybody considering DNP should read it.

Also, since you are female, you might relate better to another female's experience so I'm also posting a link to a news story from April 2013 about a 23 year-old female med student that died from taking DNP.

Regards
CBS


thinksteroids.com/forum/attachments/steroid-forum/11155d1371757961-dnp-honest-review-dnp.pdf

Abstract

In the early 1930s, the industrial chemical dinitrophenol found widespread favor as a weight-loss drug, due principally to the work of Maurice Tainter, a clinical pharmacologist from Stanford University. Unfortunately the compound’s therapeutic index was razor thin and it was not until thousands of people suffered irreversible harm that mainstream physicians realized that dinitrophenol’s risks outweighed its benefits and abandoned its use. Yet, it took passage of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act in 1938 before federal regulators had the ability to stop patent medicine men from selling dinitrophenol to Americans lured by the promise of a drug that would safely melt one’s fat away.

Cyril MacBryde, a physiologist from Washington University School of Medicine, reported ‘‘alarming functional changes’’ indicative of liver, heart, and muscle toxicity in his obese patients treated with small doses of dinitrophenol (MacBryde and Taussig, 1935).​

But some physicians continued to believe that the drug was a reasonable therapeutic option for obese patients recalcitrant to dietary intervention when used in the properdose and under the care of a knowledgeable physician. Even this position, however, became untenable when young women taking therapeutic doses of dinitrophenol under the supervision of physicians started going blind (Horner et al., 1935). If the estimate of one San Francisco ophthalmologist is accurate, during a two and a half year span, as many as 2500 Americans may have lost their sight due to what became known as ‘‘dinitrophenol cataracts’’ (Horner, 1936).​

[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2312986/Sarah-Houston-Banned-slimming-drug-DNP-kills-medical-student-coroner-attacks-online-dealers-target-vulnerable.html]Sarah Houston: Banned slimming drug DNP kills medical student, coroner attacks online dealers who target the vulnerable | Mail Online[/URL]

Sarah Houston, 23, had complained of feeling hot and unwell and had been breathing heavily on the evening of her death.

Investigations after her death last September indicated Miss Houston had taken 38 capsules from a packet of 100 of Dinitrophenol (DNP) and the drug was detected in her blood.

At her inquest yesterday, coroner David Hinchliff said it was ‘entirely’ responsible for Miss Houston’s death.

She was found dead in her bedroom by a flatmate the day after refusing to call an ambulance when she felt hot and unwell.

Coroner attacks online dealers who target the vulnerable.​

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

The risks associated with the use of DNP are significant and need to be considered carefully before proceeding. The FDA banned it in the 1930's for a reason. Using it to lose a few pounds is not worth it, IMO, especially when there are safer alternatives available.

You'll find a link below to an excellent review on DNP that Dr Jim posted a while ago. Anybody considering DNP should read it.

Also, since you are female, you might relate better to another female's experience so I'm also posting a link to a news story from April 2013 about a 23 year-old female med student that died from taking DNP.

Regards
CBS


thinksteroids.com/forum/attachments/steroid-forum/11155d1371757961-dnp-honest-review-dnp.pdf

Abstract

In the early 1930s, the industrial chemical dinitrophenol found widespread favor as a weight-loss drug, due principally to the work of Maurice Tainter, a clinical pharmacologist from Stanford University. Unfortunately the compound’s therapeutic index was razor thin and it was not until thousands of people suffered irreversible harm that mainstream physicians realized that dinitrophenol’s risks outweighed its benefits and abandoned its use. Yet, it took passage of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act in 1938 before federal regulators had the ability to stop patent medicine men from selling dinitrophenol to Americans lured by the promise of a drug that would safely melt one’s fat away.

Cyril MacBryde, a physiologist from Washington University School of Medicine, reported ‘‘alarming functional changes’’ indicative of liver, heart, and muscle toxicity in his obese patients treated with small doses of dinitrophenol (MacBryde and Taussig, 1935).​

But some physicians continued to believe that the drug was a reasonable therapeutic option for obese patients recalcitrant to dietary intervention when used in the properdose and under the care of a knowledgeable physician. Even this position, however, became untenable when young women taking therapeutic doses of dinitrophenol under the supervision of physicians started going blind (Horner et al., 1935). If the estimate of one San Francisco ophthalmologist is accurate, during a two and a half year span, as many as 2500 Americans may have lost their sight due to what became known as ‘‘dinitrophenol cataracts’’ (Horner, 1936).​

[url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2312986/Sarah-Houston-Banned-slimming-drug-DNP-kills-medical-student-coroner-attacks-online-dealers-target-vulnerable.html]Sarah Houston: Banned slimming drug DNP kills medical student, coroner attacks online dealers who target the vulnerable | Mail Online[/URL]

Sarah Houston, 23, had complained of feeling hot and unwell and had been breathing heavily on the evening of her death.

Investigations after her death last September indicated Miss Houston had taken 38 capsules from a packet of 100 of Dinitrophenol (DNP) and the drug was detected in her blood.

At her inquest yesterday, coroner David Hinchliff said it was ‘entirely’ responsible for Miss Houston’s death.

She was found dead in her bedroom by a flatmate the day after refusing to call an ambulance when she felt hot and unwell.

Coroner attacks online dealers who target the vulnerable.​

Ah yes.. I forgot about that post by Dr. Jim. That post convinced me to leave DNP alone but I guess my mind started wandering again.. It's hard not to be interested in something that can so greatly reduce BF in such a short time.. Sometimes I guess we just need to get reeled back in...

The risks are too great, thanks for the reminder CBS..

 

[Stayin Small]

your entitled to say as you please… I believe i fought for yours and my second amendment right to freedom of speech.

This is a troll... right?

 

[stomps]

This is a troll... right?

Are you insinuating beezil is a troll

If so
He is a stand up guy

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Are you insinuating beezil is a troll

If so
He is a stand up guy

I think he's referred to the fact that Beezil accidently made a typo. 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms, 1st amendment is freedom of speech.

 

[Stayin Small]

I think he's referred to the fact that Beezil accidently made a typo. 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms, 1st amendment is freedom of speech.

You'd think if somebody paraded about how hard they fought for something, they'd know what it is. Stomps didn't even catch it. Foreign, perhaps.

 

[beezil]

This is a troll... right?

hardly…

thinking guns when i wrote that earlier… as well as typing on my phone.

researching the FEMA camps in region 3… although a different topic.

 

[beezil]

You'd think if somebody paraded about how hard they fought for something, they'd know what it is. Stomps didn't even catch it. Foreign, perhaps.

hardly parading as well…