First PED cycle

[10thplanetpurplebelt]

Hello Meso family. (I hope I can post this here sorry if I’m in the wrong spot) I’m looking to source my first cycle of test C and arimidex(in case of gyno) and hcg 500iu once a week to keep my nuts somewhat intact. I’m finding it kind of hard to sift threw all the US sources and find a good one. As soon as I think I found 1 I read some bad reviews. I keep hearing there’s multiple reliable sources on the steroid underground section but I’m still having trouble. Looking to run 300-350mg maybe 400mg (depends what I can handle) a week for 12 weeks then Cruz on trt doses. All these pct drugs have the worse side effect of all and are expensive af. Seems like I should just blast and Cruz on trt and hcg until I plan on coming off completely down the road once my athletic goals are met. Any tips? Been lifting for 2 years bjj for 4 broke my arm last year I’m back and lifting hard but I really need to thicken up my bones and frame without bulking tons of fat cuz my weight class. If I gained a lot of muscle I don’t care if I go up in weight.

 

[T&H]

Hello Meso family. (I hope I can post this here sorry if I’m in the wrong spot) I’m looking to source my first cycle of test C and arimidex(in case of gyno) and hcg 500iu once a week to keep my nuts somewhat intact. I’m finding it kind of hard to sift threw all the US sources and find a good one. As soon as I think I found 1 I read some bad reviews. I keep hearing there’s multiple reliable sources on the steroid underground section but I’m still having trouble. Looking to run 300-350mg maybe 400mg (depends what I can handle) a week for 12 weeks then Cruz on trt doses. All these pct drugs have the worse side effect of all and are expensive af. Seems like I should just blast and Cruz on trt and hcg until I plan on coming off completely down the road once my athletic goals are met. Any tips? Been lifting for 2 years bjj for 4 broke my arm last year I’m back and lifting hard but I really need to thicken up my bones and frame without bulking tons of fat cuz my weight class. If I gained a lot of muscle I don’t care if I go up in weight.

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"I’m finding it kind of hard to sift threw all the US sources and find a good one. As soon as I think I found 1 I read some bad reviews. I keep hearing there’s multiple reliable sources."

If you can't find one with recent good reviews, then you haven't really looked hard and want to be spoonfed. Keep looking because no one here is going to tell you. And would you really believe what a stranger on the internet tells you??

 

[10thplanetpurplebelt]

Stopped at:

"I’m finding it kind of hard to sift threw all the US sources and find a good one. As soon as I think I found 1 I read some bad reviews. I keep hearing there’s multiple reliable sources."

If you can't find one with recent good reviews, then you haven't really looked hard and want to be spoonfed. Keep looking because no one here is going to tell you. And would you really believe what a stranger on the internet tells you??

I get what ur saying I have 1 or 2 I’m deciding from and gonna order this week.. I don’t know if it’s ok to name the sources I was gonna choose from and ask for anybody’s opinion or if they have ordered with that source recently in a post.

 

[T&H]

I get what ur saying I have 1 or 2 I’m deciding from and gonna order this week.. I don’t know if it’s ok to name the sources I was gonna choose from and ask for anybody’s opinion or if they have ordered with that source recently in a post.

Dude. Start at the last page of these sources and read forward 30 pages. You shouldn't need to ask for opinions because they will clearly stand out.

 

[10thplanetpurplebelt]

Dude. Start at the last page of these sources and read forward 30 pages. You shouldn't need to ask for opinions because they will clearly stand out.

Thanks brotha will do

 

[LescoBrandon]

spend your money on food instead and learn to diet. taking all the drugs in the world isnt going to do much if you arent eating enough.

 

[10thplanetpurplebelt]

spend your money on food instead and learn to diet. taking all the drugs in the world isnt going to do much if you arent eating enough.

The thing is I do jiu jitsu 5-6 times a week. So basically I’m doing hard cardio 6 times a week. I ate my self to 165ish(still had abs ) but I was just dirty bulking. My cardio was absolutely terrible when wrestling and I wasn’t nearly as strong as the 170lb guys. I’m not trying to be Ronnie Coleman just look thicker and more athletic but I need something to help me recover from 5bjj and 3-4 lifting sessions a week. But with that being said I agree with u and need to get my diet more on point. I eat healthy and cook a lot though. This is after I added 25lbs to my Frame with healthy bulking shakes and eating all the time I was literally 130ish pounds 2 years ago

 

[LescoBrandon]

The thing is I do jiu jitsu 5-6 times a week. So basically I’m doing hard cardio 6 times a week. I ate my self to 165ish(still had abs ) but I was just dirty bulking. My cardio was absolutely terrible when wrestling and I wasn’t nearly as strong as the 170lb guys. I’m not trying to be Ronnie Coleman just look thicker and more athletic but I need something to help me recover from 5bjj and 3-4 lifting sessions a week. But with that being said I agree with u and need to get my diet more on point. I eat healthy and cook a lot though. This is after I added 25lbs to my Frame with healthy bulking shakes and eating all the time I was literally 130ish pounds 2 years ago

what exactly is the goal here? youre saying that you want to be thicker, but it sounds more like you want to be more competitive within your weight class.

i am looking at this through a perspective of you wanting to put on mass in general and needing to eat more, rather than needing to be on a cycle. but if your true goal is to be able to compete with others in your weight class, you may have more luck looking through some of the sport specific subforums on here

 

[10thplanetpurplebelt]

what exactly is the goal here? youre saying that you want to be thicker, but it sounds more like you want to be more competitive within your weight class.

i am looking at this through a perspective of you wanting to put on mass in general and needing to eat more, rather than needing to be on a cycle. but if your true goal is to be able to compete with others in your weight class, you may have more luck looking through some of the sport specific subforums on here

I do very well at my weight class and feel strong for my weight class. When I compete I cut weight and do a specific weight class. But that’s only a few times a year. 95% of the time when I train it’s against open weight people in my gym that are usually bigger and stronger. So yes I am trying to get bigger and stronger but not put on a ton of extra fat. I don’t want to just eat my self to a fat 185lbs. I’m trying to be a jacked thick 175-185lbs after a few cycles atleast.

 

[verbatim83]

Based on your lack of experience and vague goal, I'd recommend sourcing all the drugs you mentioned (test, an AI and hcg) and starting with a low test dose.

Taking steroids is a skill, to balance your hormones and know how to listen to your body. I'll probably get flamed for this approach but it would suit you best in my opinion:

Just start with a low dose of test 150-250mg a week. Don't take an AI unless you have severe E2 symptoms, especially not before week 5/6. Use frequent injections, as frequent as you can handle. I did every day for a long time before spacing my pins out more. This will help prevent any major swings

Based on your goals and bodyweight you will see significant improvement, especially considering you are not trying to get massive currently.

Once you have a feel for it after a couple months you can adjust the dose accordingly. Drugs like: tbol, carderine or even EQ would probably suit your goals well in the future.

As far as a source, it really is easy to find just keep looking. Theres multiple vendors on this board and elsewhere.

I can't make this post with out mentioning diet as well, I wish I had the skill of eating like I do now when I first started taking shit. I couldn't eat for anything and I didn't capitalize as well as I could have on my virgin steroid sensitive state. I personally really like a carb cycling diet for bulking and dieting. Just shredded 20ib since February using a carb cycling model I got from a YT channel called Anabolic Bodybuilding. Got watch his videos on carb cycling a couple times, calculate your macros and you will be able to bulk with out getting fat.

Best of luck

also censor your face next time

 

[Rido]

Based on your lack of experience and vague goal

Seems like "I just wanna get on gear"

 

[OmL]

I must have been asleep for a few years or something. What’s with all these new accounts calling 250mg test a week a ‘low dose’?

 

[verbatim83]

Seems like "I just wanna get on gear"

I've been there too, there's definitely a lot more of this because of ease of access and information. There's more education too, but People mistake that for less risk.

I must have been asleep for a few years or something. What’s with all these new accounts calling 250mg test a week a ‘low dose’?

And to be clear, it's not a low dose. It's the start dose for a blast in my opinion. But I figured I'd get flamed for saying what I'd actually recommend, 20mg test cyp ED. Thats where I started and grew like a weed. Put me past the top of the reference range with no sides and felt great. But I've always been a quality of life guy more than anything. Most of run was 350mg and some anadrol for a PL meet. I have no bodybuilding aspirations and was 180ib. Fucking plenty of test for me to achieve my goals. If I had different goals, the doses would be higher.

Scale the drugs to your life and current capacity to grow OP. That's the whole point I'm trying to make

 

[mass gain]

@10thplanetpurplebelt how old are you?

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

I must have been asleep for a few years or something. What’s with all these new accounts calling 250mg test a week a ‘low dose’?

TikTok and YouTube have taken the place of actual information. The progression is to start out as a broccoli-head SARMs goblin and then move to 250mg test.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

Hello Meso family. (I hope I can post this here sorry if I’m in the wrong spot) I’m looking to source my first cycle of test C and arimidex(in case of gyno) and hcg 500iu once a week to keep my nuts somewhat intact. I’m finding it kind of hard to sift threw all the US sources and find a good one. As soon as I think I found 1 I read some bad reviews. I keep hearing there’s multiple reliable sources on the steroid underground section but I’m still having trouble. Looking to run 300-350mg maybe 400mg (depends what I can handle) a week for 12 weeks then Cruz on trt doses. All these pct drugs have the worse side effect of all and are expensive af. Seems like I should just blast and Cruz on trt and hcg until I plan on coming off completely down the road once my athletic goals are met. Any tips? Been lifting for 2 years bjj for 4 broke my arm last year I’m back and lifting hard but I really need to thicken up my bones and frame without bulking tons of fat cuz my weight class. If I gained a lot of muscle I don’t care if I go up in weight.

HCG is not used once a week. The half-life is short and using 500iu once a week is not hugely more beneficial than not using it at all.

You want to cruise after but do you have any idea what your testosterone levels look like right now?

If PCT drugs are too expensive then you need to really consider not being so poor. In under one minute I found BG selling a 30 count box of pharmaceutical tamoxifen for $15. You’d buy two of them to cover your six week PCT. That’s $30. Goodlyfe has a 50 count bottle for $40. So you’re telling me $30-40 is “expensive af”? I am somewhat afraid of what would happen if I told you the price of food and supplemental protein.

You want to use steroids—which are for growing—but your goals aren’t really about growing. You don’t want to put on excess fat, which means by definition you’re not willing to actually bulk.

I don’t see a use case here for you. Go get blood work done and see what your testosterone (and everything else) looks. Maybe you’re low and trt is actually something you need. Or maybe it’s healthy and you have no need to use drugs to attain your somewhat undefined, unclear goals.

 

[10thplanetpurplebelt]

HCG is not used once a week. The half-life is short and using 500iu once a week is not hugely more beneficial than not using it at all.

You want to cruise after but do you have any idea what your testosterone levels look like right now?

If PCT drugs are too expensive then you need to really consider not being so poor. In under one minute I found BG selling a 30 count box of pharmaceutical tamoxifen for $15. You’d buy two of them to cover your six week PCT. That’s $30. Goodlyfe has a 50 count bottle for $40. So you’re telling me $30-40 is “expensive af”? I am somewhat afraid of what would happen if I told you the price of food and supplemental protein.

You want to use steroids—which are for growing—but your goals aren’t really about growing. You don’t want to put on excess fat, which means by definition you’re not willing to actually bulk.

I don’t see a use case here for you. Go get blood work done and see what your testosterone (and everything else) looks. Maybe you’re low and trt is actually something you need. Or maybe it’s healthy and you have no need to use drugs to attain your somewhat undefined, unclear goals.

I have the money for pct and whatever I want to take. I just said from what I’ve read u get the worse side effects from those drugs then just testosterone. Also I never said I don’t wanna gain any fat I’ve literally been trying to eat until I don’t have abs for years I hold fat is favorable spots like my back and legs not my chest so much I would rather be a little over weight then underweight like I have been my whole life … as it’s easier for someone like me to get lean and lose a few pounds. I just said I need to gain a good bit of muscle and strength if I’m gonna be gaining 25+lbs I can’t afford to gain 20lbs of fat/water and 4lbs of muscle natty bulking like I have been. Also I’m getting my test levels checked next week because I have low t symptoms I’m 25 turn 26 in august.

 

[10thplanetpurplebelt]

HCG is not used once a week. The half-life is short and using 500iu once a week is not hugely more beneficial than not using it at all.

You want to cruise after but do you have any idea what your testosterone levels look like right now?

If PCT drugs are too expensive then you need to really consider not being so poor. In under one minute I found BG selling a 30 count box of pharmaceutical tamoxifen for $15. You’d buy two of them to cover your six week PCT. That’s $30. Goodlyfe has a 50 count bottle for $40. So you’re telling me $30-40 is “expensive af”? I am somewhat afraid of what would happen if I told you the price of food and supplemental protein.

You want to use steroids—which are for growing—but your goals aren’t really about growing. You don’t want to put on excess fat, which means by definition you’re not willing to actually bulk.

I don’t see a use case here for you. Go get blood work done and see what your testosterone (and everything else) looks. Maybe you’re low and trt is actually something you need. Or maybe it’s healthy and you have no need to use drugs to attain your somewhat undefined, unclear goals.

Also I just ment expensive as in more than the actual anabolics. I probably looked at a shitty overpriced source.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

I can’t afford to gain 20lbs of fat/water and 4lbs of muscle natty bulking like I have been.

Understood. But keep in mind that a bulk with testosterone will probably look like this:

Total weight post cycle +12 (1lb/w)
Total weight post PCT +8
Half of that will be fat, the other half muscle. That would be a good result, btw. Adding 4lbs of actual muscle tissue in three months is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[Aman2127]

Hello Meso family. (I hope I can post this here sorry if I’m in the wrong spot) I’m looking to source my first cycle of test C and arimidex(in case of gyno) and hcg 500iu once a week to keep my nuts somewhat intact. I’m finding it kind of hard to sift threw all the US sources and find a good one. As soon as I think I found 1 I read some bad reviews. I keep hearing there’s multiple reliable sources on the steroid underground section but I’m still having trouble. Looking to run 300-350mg maybe 400mg (depends what I can handle) a week for 12 weeks then Cruz on trt doses. All these pct drugs have the worse side effect of all and are expensive af. Seems like I should just blast and Cruz on trt and hcg until I plan on coming off completely down the road once my athletic goals are met. Any tips? Been lifting for 2 years bjj for 4 broke my arm last year I’m back and lifting hard but I really need to thicken up my bones and frame without bulking tons of fat cuz my weight class. If I gained a lot of muscle I don’t care if I go up in weight.

If there is one thing I've learned on here by reading through all the sponsored forums is that all of them will have some negative reviews. Sometimes it's related to shipping in which there's not shit any source can do about that. Just pick one that has a lot of pages, with recent responses, and has good responses. I had to give up because I couldn't find a single one without bad comments. I took the risk and got my shit so I'm happy.