GH for restoration of health

kremer5

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I'll start with a succinct background on myself to give readers a perspective. About 2 years ago, I started noticing intermittent bouts of fatigue. I was a full time university student working 25 hrs a week as a cook; both very stressful environments. I was also training jiu jitsu 3-4 days a week. The fatigue wasn't major, very much akin to a low grade “coffee crash”. I shrugged it off. This continued for ~6 months. Then everything started falling apart. Memory problems, libido issues, insomnia, substantial lack of energy, ect. I had no idea what was going on at the time. Fast forward 6 months. My condition is just as bad, but now I know what's going on. I got some blood work done; modest endocrine dysfunction. Thyroid/gonads/adrenals were all operating at pretty low levels. TSH was as high as 11, free T bottomed out at 202 ng/dl. Cortisol spiked at night. I felt like complete shit.

Now I'm here today, about 2 years after this. I'm on a load of supplements to manage what my body can't do without, but I can get through the day with relative ease. However, I'm still not normal. Thinking is slow – I used to be a witty dude with a great memory. Now I get C's on exams and social interactions seem to happen at a pace that I can't keep up with. Sleep has improved to an extent, but still having a hard time falling asleep. Getting out of bed is difficult (ie, very groggy). In the past 6 months, I've only worked out as I normally would for about 1 of them. No more jiu jitsu, weights, or running. Picked up yoga though (love it).


Hope that gives a bit of an idea where I'm at. Now, my interest is in GH. Based on what I've read so far, some people use GH for its anti aging benefits. Looking at my history, I see an aging body. I'm young yet (24), which is why I'm concerned. I'm concerned about the long term integrity of my organs. Have I pushed them too far? Will they recover? Will I ever feel normal again? So this brings me to GH. If GH is anti aging, then it is effectively enhancing the function of the body. Anyone that has used real GH will likely attest to this, based on my readings. Maybe it would allow for a faster recovery? I see people use it for injuries. Is this different than a muscular/ligament/tendon? I don't know. I haven't found anybody using GH for the purposes that I'm interested in using it for, which is to recover from hormonal dysfunction. The rationale is that the GH will help to repair organs and also improve general well being. The general well being is important because thoughts have an impact on how well the body works. This is fringe stuff, so I won't get into it here, but that is my belief (yes, just a belief).

I'm not looking to jump into this blind. I am taking time here to gather information and opinions so that I can make a better decision. My biggest concern is long term consequences. People say GH is relatively safe compared to things like AAS, but in my experience, when you put hormones into the body there will be some form of endogenous hormone down regulation. What is it like coming off GH?

I want to know how dangerous, if at all, this may be and what kind of long term consequences I'm looking at *if* this is even a viable option. I'm giving myself a long time to make a decision on this one..
 
I'll start with a succinct background on myself

I started noticing intermittent bouts of fatigue.Then everything started falling apart. 1)Memory problems, libido issues, insomnia, substantial lack of energy, ect. I had no idea what was going on at the time. Fast forward 6 months. My condition is just as bad, but now I know what's going on. I got some blood work done; modest endocrine dysfunction. Thyroid/gonads/adrenals were all operating at pretty low levels. TSH was as high as 11, free T bottomed out at 202 ng/dl. Cortisol spiked at night. I felt like complete shit.

GH for the purposes that I'm interested in using it for, 2)which is to recover from hormonal dysfunction.

3)I want to know how dangerous, if at all, this may be and what kind of long term consequences I'm looking at *if* this is even a viable option. I'm giving myself a long time to make a decision on this one..

1) Sounds like emotional issues are a major part of your problem!

2) So what form of "hormonal dysfunction" were you diagnosed with?

3) Is GH wo risk hell no, but danger only you can define BY READING
 
1) Sounds like emotional issues are a major part of your problem!

2) So what form of "hormonal dysfunction" were you diagnosed with?

3) Is GH wo risk hell no, but danger only you can define BY READING


They definitely were. Emotional issues stemming from a poor social life. I've patched that up though. Just as an aside to anyone reading, health is more than going to the gym and eating healthy. Your relationships play a huge part in health. Yes, you'll make better gains if you have a strong social circle. Your physiology functions more efficiently if you're happy.

That'd depend on what doctor you talk to. Some doctors wouldn't even recognize those test levels as an issue (202 ng/DL @ age 23). I saw a number of doctors; the most accurate diagnosis I got was "subpar hormonal function".

Yes, I made this thread to assess the risk. There is only so much you can read. Much easier to create a thread that allows me to interact with people who are smarter than I.
 
Sorry but that's what most here refer to as a call to be "spoon fed", AKA laziness!

Find some other SUCKERS!
 
Maybe someone has advice specific to this situation. I haven't come across anything relating to GH use for hormonal dysfunction, which is why I posted. If you know of a thread that might be relevant, then maybe you could link me there.

Please don't assume I haven't read anything. I'm not trying to bait "suckers" here to come and do my homework for me.
 
The link is called Google and the "thread" supplemental GH adverse effects, give it a try!
 
ill break it down real easy for you. Gh isn't going to help you. Especially when you do the cost benefit analysis. Youre a college kid too. Unless you have 800$ spare dollars a month, I would just put it to rest. There are many other cost effective ways to boost your morale.
 
Read my post. I haven't found anything discussing the utilization of GH for assisting with endocrine dysfunction. Please stop spamming the thread.

Well what a surprise you can't locate YOUR diagnosis of "endocrine dysfunction" on Google either! That's bc the only endocrine dysfunction you have is in your head, so run along now CLOWN!

Oh and in case you haven't noticed absent my "spamming" no one else has posted
squat (except for Nat and I suspect he just feels sorry for your dumb ass) bc they know you are FOS!
 
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ill break it down real easy for you. Gh isn't going to help you. Especially when you do the cost benefit analysis. Youre a college kid too. Unless you have 800$ spare dollars a month, I would just put it to rest. There are many other cost effective ways to boost your morale.


cost isn't an issue. I have a job and trade currencies on the side


Can you elaborate? I have been at this for about 16 months now...if GH won't help, then what will?
 
cost isn't an issue. I have a job and trade currencies on the side


Can you elaborate? I have been at this for about 16 months now...if GH won't help, then what will?
All I know is what I use it for. I mean what do you think it will do for you? I mean anti aging? Your best bet is if you truly do have hormonal issues, i.e. Low test. Treat that. Find a dr that will write you a prescription for test. Or hell do it yourself. I have never felt this huge rejuvenated effect from gh. But I don't suffer from gh deficiencies. My suggestion is get some test, lease a fast new car, and bang some college girls and that would probably still be cheaper than gh. If that doesn't help idk what will.
 
All I know is what I use it for. I mean what do you think it will do for you? I mean anti aging? Your best bet is if you truly do have hormonal issues, i.e. Low test. Treat that. Find a dr that will write you a prescription for test. Or hell do it yourself. I have never felt this huge rejuvenated effect from gh. But I don't suffer from gh deficiencies. My suggestion is get some test, lease a fast new car, and bang some college girls and that would probably still be cheaper than gh. If that doesn't help idk what will.

Lol, that is actually good advice. I don't like the idea of hopping on test right now (rather try other things first to possibly reset natural production), but everything else...right on


GH came to mind after looking into its effects on ageing. Ageing is a decline in physiological function. There is a clear decline in physiological function here, thus indicating ageing at a rate that doesn't match age. My thought on GH is that it would help reverse overall decline in function; not just for one hormonal system (ie, test).
 
Golly why didn't you respond in kind when I asked what "hormonal dysfunction" were you diagnosed with?

You could have simply said; well Dr Jim unlike most other Meso members my hormones are so F...ed up I'm experiencing an AGING PROCESS.

And I want GH to remedy what DNA couldn't, reverse the aging process, LMAO.

You're a bonafied NUT CASE!
 
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And that conclusion is based on what an isolated TSH numerical value absent units, reference ranges, T3, T4, the presence of nonspecific signs and symptoms, OR maybe the fact he had been evaluated by "several" physicians was more troubling!
 
The TSH value is more than twice as high as the reference range, man. Also, at least one study has indicated that TSH above 2 mIU/L may be abnormal, as it has been linked to elevated levels of cortisol. People on thyroid medication often needs to keep TSH very low to feel good. You're right that he needs to do more blood work, and check thyroid hormones. I recommend that he checks the T3/rT3 ratio. The symptoms he's describing is classic.

I've been struggling with a condition for 7 1/2 years now - care to guess how many arrogant- and incompetent physicians I've seen over the years? It was "all in my head", until recently, when I was diagnosed with primary hyperparathyroidism and hypothalamic failure with growth hormone- and cortisol deficiency. It was an ITT that revealed the latter - nothing showed up on ordinary blood tests...
 
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