GH Inclusion

HCgrip

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A friend of mine asked me to post this for him over here on Meso...

"My next upcoming cycle I am planning on the following:

Weeks 1-4: 20mg Bolasterone Caps daily
Weeks 1-8: 250mg Tren Enanthate every 3rd day (~585mg/week)
Weeks 1-8: 375mg Test Enanthate every 3rd day (~875mg/week)
Weeks 1-10: 100mg Boldenone Propionate daily (~700mg/week)
Weeks 9-10: 100mg Test Propionate daily (~700mg/week)
Weeks 9-12: 20mg Bolasterone Caps daily
Weeks 11-12: 50mg Test Suspension daily (~350mg/week)

Throughout: 1mg Arimidex EOD (wk 1-10) & 20mg Nolvadex EOD, 25mcg T3 daily
PCT: Clomid for 4 weeks (300mg day 1, 100mg/day for 2 weeks, 50mg/day for 2 weeks)

Obviously some thought was put into this cycle. It will be the longest cycle I've ran. Previous cycles were 8 or 10 weeks, probably be my 5th long cyle, as well as many shorter cycles. I am 24 years old, 220 lbs. or so, 10-12% bodyfat.

My question is, would it be beneficial to include low-dose GH during the cycle and extend it for 8 weeks post-cycle? By low-dose, I mean 2-4 IU's daily. The reason is two-fold: minimize fat gain (actually increase fat loss) and increase collagen synthesis. In combination w/ T3 I think I could actually lose 5 lbs. of fat while gaining 25 lbs. of muscle on this cycle provided my diet and training are excellent, which they will be. I also would like the benefits of making my joints feel good since I do sprint work.

What are your guys thoughts on this strategy? Is it necessary to run GH for 3 months to see benefits? Is it better to run later in the cycle instead of the beginning? Is low-dose beneficial for my goals? Will there be any side effects with this protocol?

Thanks."
 
The cycle looks solid. GH at 2-4IU's daily would work fine if you have the funds. It is necessary to run it for a few months to see benefits, with fat loss and collagen synthesis being among those. I would personally begin the GH at least a month prior to the beginning of the cycle to maximize the benefits.

-RVZ
 
ronnievanzant said:
I would personally begin the GH at least a month prior to the beginning of the cycle to maximize the benefits.

-RVZ

Exactly what I'd say. 4-5IU/day for a shorter period, especially during a cycle, would yield benefits. I'd also run the tren E longer. At those doses, he'll be reaching peak plasma levels around week 5, so he'll be at peak levels for only 3 months. Either that or switch to acetate.
 
Thanks for the response. I will relay this information to my friend and tell him to use tren acetate for weeks 9-10.

Bump for more input. Thanks.

HC
 
HCgrip said:
Thanks for the response. I will relay this information to my friend and tell him to use tren acetate for weeks 9-10.

Bump for more input. Thanks.

HC

HCgrip,
I think what Einstein meant was to use tren acetate the entire cycle and forego the enanthate all together. I agree with him. Tren acetate will allow your friend to see results much sooner, but with a more frequent injection schedule.

-RVZ
 
einstein1905 said:
I'd also run the tren E longer.

Well, this what Einstein said. I'll advise my friend of your ideas. He is planning a front-load with extra Tren E and some Tren Ace. he told me. This should accelerate the gains in the beginning weeks he says.

Thanks for the input ronnie.

HC
 
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