GH testing

[Jimmyhoffa59]

so im running some of Mike strongs GH. With alL the hate on generics I've already heard it.

My question to at least get some idea of what I have, good or not what tests should I run? Serum GH and IGF levels?

Second question is what's the minimum I need to run it before pulling blood?

Third would the protocol be 10iu 3hrs before draw?

I don't have any access to ms or hplc otherwise I'd already gone that route.
thanks for the input.

 

[dmt31]

10iu 3hrs before draw is for the gh serum test. if you're going for an igf test you really should have your baseline level before you got on, then take another igf test 8-12 weeks after. some people say you can get an idea in a shorter amount of time, some say a longer amount of time. either way, 8-12 weeks of gh is a much more than 1 kit, which is what it sounds like you have, so you're better off just taking the serum test

 

[Jimmyhoffa59]

Yeah but I feel it won't reveal shit without the igf portion, I'll just get more and call it an experiment. If rather be able to contribute some info.

 

[hotdog23]

You can get a solid IGF-1 reading after 4-5 weeks. Serum will tell you something but not much. IGF-1 will tell you how potent, how bioactive.

Lately I've seen a lot of "cheap" GH that shows good numbers on serums but doesn't budge IGF numbers. Nxt to worthless IMO

 

[dmt31]

You can get a solid IGF-1 reading after 4-5 weeks. Serum will tell you something but not much. IGF-1 will tell you how potent, how bioactive.

Lately I've seen a lot of "cheap" GH that shows good numbers on serums but doesn't budge IGF numbers. Nxt to worthless IMO

My thinking is a little different. The Serum test can be done much more quickly and cheaper, and it gives you some info. If you get a shit number on the serum test, why would you continue to run it for 4 or 5 weeks to get an igf reading? If it has GH in it, it should show up on the serum test. Now, once you have a good serum reading, I agree, an IGF test can really hammer home how good it is.

 

[romaleos]

Because pharma will get you 19-23 on serums and then supra-physiological on the IGF-1. With generic you score 25-30 on serums and then stay in the normal range on IGF-1.

Generic GH is GH but non-bioactive except for the lethargy, appetite, and numb hands.

Shitty part is you have to run the stuff for 4-5 weeks before you get any reading on the IGF-1. Much like testing Test-E. You're a month down the road and lighter in the pocket before you realize that you've got bunk.

Save yourself the heartache and get pharma. If you can't afford it, you're better off spending your money for generics on human grade testosterone.

 

[dmt31]

Because pharma will get you 19-23 on serums and then supra-physiological on the IGF-1. With generic you score 25-30 on serums and then stay in the normal range on IGF-1.

Generic GH is GH but non-bioactive except for the lethargy, appetite, and numb hands.

Shitty part is you have to run the stuff for 4-5 weeks before you get any reading on the IGF-1. Much like testing Test-E. You're a month down the road and lighter in the pocket before you realize that you've got bunk.

Save yourself the heartache and get pharma. If you can't afford it, you're better off spending your money for generics on human grade testosterone.

So, in your opinion, is there no such thing as a bioactive generic GH? I feel like I've seen a fair amount of igf+serum tests that would say otherwise from a few sources on different boards. But I don't have as much experience in the matter, so I'm curious.

 

[hotdog23]

So, in your opinion, is there no such thing as a bioactive generic GH? I feel like I've seen a fair amount of igf+serum tests that would say otherwise from a few sources on different boards. But I don't have as much experience in the matter, so I'm curious.

Your right about initial reading. But if I was gonna do one test it would be IGF-1.

Yes there are some bioactive generics out there IMO. Hopefully you'll have some landing soon

192aa I think can mediate IGF-1 levels. And cjc-1295 can. No other peptide combo can show on a serum and effect an IGF-1 test. They do not raise serum levels for long enough to raise liver derived IGF

Obv if u can afford pharma, go for it. I'm not giving up on generics just yet

 

[hotdog23]

Because pharma will get you 19-23 on serums and then supra-physiological on the IGF-1. With generic you score 25-30 on serums and then stay in the normal range on IGF-1.

Generic GH is GH but non-bioactive except for the lethargy, appetite, and numb hands.

Shitty part is you have to run the stuff for 4-5 weeks before you get any reading on the IGF-1. Much like testing Test-E. You're a month down the road and lighter in the pocket before you realize that you've got bunk.

Save yourself the heartache and get pharma. If you can't afford it, you're better off spending your money for generics on human grade testosterone.

But test can't accelerate healing of contractile connective tissues

Bpc-157 and cjc-DAC may be my nxt healing stack

 

[dmt31]

Your right about initial reading. But if I was gonna do one test it would be IGF-1.

Yes there are some bioactive generics out there IMO. Hopefully you'll have some landing soon

192aa I think can mediate IGF-1 levels. And cjc-1295 can. No other peptide combo can show on a serum and effect an IGF-1 test. They do not raise serum levels for long enough to raise liver derived IGF

Obv if u can afford pharma, go for it. I'm not giving up on generics just yet

Yeah, if this pack of Kefeis doesn't test good I'm offically done with generics. But, I actually am fairly confident for the first time ever about a generic gh supplier. I was hoping it'd be here by the new year, but I haven't even gotten the tracking from the remailer yet, so I highly doubt it.

 

[hotdog23]

Yeah, if this pack of Kefeis doesn't test good I'm offically done with generics. But, I actually am fairly confident for the first time ever about a generic gh supplier. I was hoping it'd be here by the new year, but I haven't even gotten the tracking from the remailer yet, so I highly doubt it.

Holidays are crazy for intl mail. They will get there. I'm still waiting on a kit from astro. Hope IT shows by new year... Or at all

 

[romaleos]

But test can't accelerate healing of contractile connective tissues

Bpc-157 and cjc-DAC may be my nxt healing stack

Try Tom's Thymosin Beta 4. Worked great for me. But mind you that I modified my training for contraindications then slowly added back the movements that were giving me hell.

I also credit the NPP for helping even though all scientific research discredits nandrolone on joint repair/strengthening. My experience whether placebo or not proves to me otherwise.