growth and test cypionate

[gotti]

have been on growth hormone for 1.5 months at 1 i.u. s/c and test cypionate for 1 month at .25ml every week. strenght of the test is 200mg this is what my doctor prescribed. my test level came back at 386ng/dl to be honest i really dont feel the energy, strenght, libido that everyone else brags about while being on TRT. I'M 43 WEIGH 246 lbs and workout 4 days per week. does this take time or are my doses too small. someone said growth should be upped to 2 i.u. please help. also is anyone else doing this protocol.

 

[Astrozombie]

I'm more of a novice, so I'll let the experts weigh in on this as well, but at four weeks you should see signs of improvement. 386ng/dl is in the low-normal range, and 50mg a week is a low dosage (though I don't know how the gh compounds your testosterone dosage). Do you have lab results pre-HRT to compare it with?

My dosage is .5ml per week - I can't imagine having to measure out to .25ml with any accuraccy.

 

[cpeil2]

That's a dose of 50 mg - probably too small. A more usual dose would be twice that. Given your weight, you might need even more.

 

[toc67guru]

blood tests should be done at the 5 week period (after 5th injection) when using test cyp.
give it another week if possible and get them done again to see what they are.

i personally am of the same opinion as astrozombie and cpeil2 50mg/week is low as swale recommends a dosage of 100mg per week when starting a patient on trt with a frontloaded dose of test cyp at 200mg for the first week then see results after 5 weeks before adjusting if need be up or down.

 

[pmgamer18]

Most of the men that I talk to at other groups don't feel good unless they are between 800 to 1000. I know I don't feel good under 800 but then there are a lot of men that don't weigh as much as me that do well at 600 to 800. One and a half months is to soon to tell how your going to feel it takes time first you need to get your levels up then your body has to undo the damage that was done for Low T. I can't say how much you need to take but what you are doing is not bring up your T levels.
Phil

 

[greatgro]

Like has been said, 1/4ml is only 50mg of TEST Cyp. That's WAY too low. As mentioned, SWALE uses 100mg a week to start although the first injection is usually 200mg frontloaded to build Test levels up faster. Starting with 50mg will probably take AT LEAST 5 weeks just to get blood levels high enough to feel anything. See if he'll double it.

 

[ciobl]

you'd probably be better off with tribulus terrestri.

bros he is on hgh though.

Doesn't that compensate ?

 

[Tmartin]

ciobl,

I am with you on your thinking. It was my unsderstanding the test would increase your IGF-1 levels and vice versa taking HGH. At 1IU my doc told me that you wouldnt see much improvement. I am taking 2IU daily and well as 200 mg 1cc a week of the test. Can one of the experts speak to this?

How many others on here are taking the HGH with the TRT? What is your dosage and what levels are your IGF-1?

Doc, sir what is a level (number) that you aim for patients on HGH therapy. Mine has been fairly stable at the 350-375 range (IGF-1).

As a side note, if any of you are like me, I could not afford the HGH at the prices here in the U.S. I was able to find a overseas (legit) source with a 75% market share in their country at about $4.00 per IU. They are currently working on FDA approval for sale in the US.

I am new to the group and I am not pushing a product on here. I dont know the rules. I apologize in advance if I am not suppose to mention products. I was just unable to do the HGH due to the cost in US.

Thank you Dr. Crisler for providing us with this site, your expertise and wealth of knowledge .

 

[gotti]

growth at $4.00 i.u.

bro i'm on growth and paying roughly $10.00 i.u. can u tell me where u can get it for $4.00 i.u. it would help a great deal this stuff is way too expensive. i have a dr. prescription already thanks gotti

 

[SWALE]

When it becomes FDA-approved, we'll all want to know where to get some!