Hammer Anabolic Testosterone Propionate

[Volley_Fire]

Hammer's Test Prop
Days 1 & 2: 200 mg daily front load
days 3 - 13: 100mg daily
Blood drawn 28 hours after last pin

Would you say that my exemestane from Blue Sky Peptides is bunk? I started taking it at 12.5mg daily, 3 days before first pin, and continued to take it every day till blood draw.

 

[RIP the Jacka]

High estro. Wondering why your liver values are high? You on orals?

 

[RIP the Jacka]

Exemestane is Aromasin right? Its probably bunk.

 

[Volley_Fire]

Exemestane is Aromasin right? Its probably bunk.

Yes

Liver values: I started GP Dbol @ 40-50mg daily 3 days prior to the test. I didn't think they would right so rapidly. They were both single digit prior to cycle start.

 

[RIP the Jacka]

Yea Dbol could be harsh on liver. I remember having right, upper abdominal pain when taking Dbol at 50mg a day. Pick up some Liv.52

 

[Volley_Fire]

Yea Dbol could be harsh on liver. I remember having right, upper abdominal pain when taking Dbol at 50mg a day. Pick up some Liv.52

Already taking it at two capsules daily (recommended dosage on the bottle). I'll double the dose.

 

[mghoward74]

The million dollar question is....

Are you satisfied with the numbers? 700 mg of prop and the numbers come close to 5.7x

 

[CeymoreButtz]

Hate to burst your bubbles gents, but Liv 52 and Milk Thistle does nothing to help your liver while on cycle... You get an A for trying, but your values will go back down after your cycle. If you really want to see if your having some serious Liver issues when levels are high, check to see if your bilirubin is high as well... I always here stories of guys that used Liv 52 and it kept their values down on cycle.... Nah.... chances are your orals weren't complete potency....

Also get your AI in pharmaceutical form and you won't have Estro like that...

Good Job on getting the bloodwork

CB

 

[Jake Sanborn]

Hate to burst your bubbles gents, but Liv 52 and Milk Thistle does nothing to help your liver while on cycle... You get an A for trying, but your values will go back down after your cycle. If you really want to see if your having some serious Liver issues when levels are high, check to see if your bilirubin is high as well... I always here stories of guys that used Liv 52 and it kept their values down on cycle.... Nah.... chances are your orals weren't complete potency....

Also get your AI in pharmaceutical form and you won't have Estro like that...

Good Job on getting the bloodwork

CB

I use TUDCA and that seems to work real well on the liver

 

[CeymoreButtz]

Jake, How do you know its working really well?

 

[Volley_Fire]

Also get your AI in pharmaceutical form and you won't have Estro like that...

Good Job on getting the bloodwork

CB

Had pharm grade AI and SERMS arrive yesterday, and will start taking them ASAP. Part of of goal in getting bloodwork was to also see if the AI was bunk or not.

 

[jackmeoff1]

Just because your estro is out of range doesn't mean your AI is bunk. At those test levels, that actually isn't that high.

 

[Volley_Fire]

The million dollar question is....

Are you satisfied with the numbers? 700 mg of prop and the numbers come close to 5.7x

I'm moderately satisfied. I'd say the gear is a bit, but not terribly, underdosed, especially considering that on a number of days I actually pinned 1.1 or 1.2ml.

Just because your estro is out of range doesn't mean your AI is bunk. At those test levels, that actually isn't that high.

I was just guessing, but I figured my E2 level would be lower considering my consistent intake of exemestane. Perhaps it's underdosed. I'll be increasing the dosage to hopefully get my E2 down closer to, or within, normal limits.

 

[OdieM]

I don't know enough about doing bloods on prop. I know your taking 700 a week but wouldn't atlest half of that be out of your system by the time you took your test? Being that prop has a very very short half life.

Honestly I'm asking I don't know

 

[Volley_Fire]

I don't know enough about doing bloods on prop. I know your taking 700 a week but wouldn't atlest half of that be out of your system by the time you took your test? Being that prop has a very very short half life.

Honestly I'm asking I don't know

I think blood levels should be relatively stable at that point. With a half life of about 2 days, roughly half of each prior pin should still in be in my system when I pin the next day. So the blood work indicates, approximately, what my stable blood levels are, but not my peak levels.

I guess blood levels would peak like 12 hours later or something? So maybe his Test Prop is not underdosed much, if at all.

 

[Jake Sanborn]

I use TUDCA and that seems to work real well on the liver

well my liver enzymes were and always have been elevated even without the gear so my Doc told me to try TUDCA since I've been on it my liver has been fine, can't say I've done anything different than I always have except the TUDCA very expensive, and he said there isn't really anything except vitamin E that does anything for the liver but that TUDCA was very promising alternative seems to be working well soooo I have to believe its working

 

[stevonov]

new here, do you take hcg? would that help to raise your low lh fsh or is that not a concern while on?

 

[stevonov]

i suppose clomid would fix that up after cycle

 

[Volley_Fire]

new here, do you take hcg? would that help to raise your low lh fsh or is that not a concern while on?

I have been taking 250IU HCG every three days while on cycle. HCG will not increase LH or FSH levels. To my understanding, it will instead mimic LH in the testes and thus prevent testicular atrophy. This will promote a quicker transition back to natural testosterone production post cycle when proper post cycle therapy is employed.

I will discontinue HCG administration several days before initiating PCT.

 

[stevonov]

it will all come back to me lol. the labs i Use to get would max out at a number way lower than yours and would just tell you greater than 1500 or something like that. glad to see labs giving a true reading.