HCG Procedure

[InquisitiveT]

Hi all,

I've got HCG that looks like the picture below.

As you can see, they're not ordinary vials. From the research I've done, these are called 'amps.' It's 5000iu worth.

But I have no idea how to set this up. Can someone help direct on it? All videos I look for are using the regular vials.

I'm assuming:

-I have to reconstitute using the solvent (green amp) into an empty vial
-Mix the powder (yellow amp) into that empty vial
-Do the tops just snap off?

But where does the sterile/bac. water come into play? Also - can I use sterile water? People say bac. water is the way to go for HCG.

Any help or few logical steps to get me started would be most appreciated. Thanks.

 

[InquisitiveT]

I think I may have found an answer from research. Could someone confirm these steps to be correct:

"
First, throw out the liquid. If you haven't already, get some bacteriostatic water for injection. It's available openly on the internet.

Secondly, that "pill" is the actual HC.G powder. Once the bac water hits it, it will dissolve on contact.

I suggest constituting your HC.G so in the end you will have 500iu/ml. Here's how this will work:

Take 1ml of bac water and shoot it into the vial that has the HC.G powder. Now you have 5000iu of HC.G per 1ml of water.

Now. Suck this fluid up and put it into a separate 10ml sterile vial. You can find these on the web as well.

Then. Take ANOTHER 9ml of bac water and shoot it into the vial with the 1ml of water and 5000iu HC.G.

In the end you will have 5000iu of HC.G per 10ml of water. This means you have a 500iu/ml concentration.

I suggest you run 250iu of HC.G 2xEW throughout the duration of your cycle.

Fridge the HC.G once you constitute it. It's good for roughly 30 days before losing potency. "

 

[Sworder]

Fridge the HC.G once you constitute it. It's good for roughly 30 days before losing potency. "

It won't denature as quickly people think. It lasts a lot longer than 30 days.

 

[InquisitiveT]

It won't denature as quickly people think. It lasts a lot longer than 30 days.

Thanks. So I'm assuming those steps are correct.

If I have 2 5000iu amps, I should do the first one with the directions above. Use it for about 6-8 weeks lets say (since you're saying it lasts more than 30 days), then do the same steps on the 2nd 5000 iu amp to finish rest of a Test E cycle?

Edit: Can I use sterile water instead of the bac. water?

 

[Sworder]

Thanks. So I'm assuming those steps are correct.

If I have 2 5000iu amps, I should do the first one with the directions above. Use it for about 6-8 weeks lets say (since you're saying it lasts more than 30 days), then do the same steps on the 2nd 5000 iu amp to finish rest of a Test E cycle?

You can use the water that is included in the kit as well, I wouldn't dilute the solution to 500iu/ml. The water is just water, so keep the volume down so on injection day you can mix it in with your regular steroid injection instead. But you can do it your way, it's just a matter of preference.

 

[InquisitiveT]

You can use the water that is included in the kit as well, I wouldn't dilute the solution to 500iu/ml. The water is just water, so keep the volume down so on injection day you can mix it in with your regular steroid injection instead. But you can do it your way, it's just a matter of preference.

Sorry, not following you. What's the water that they give?

What do you mean keep the volume down? I thought diluting it to 500iu/ml is good because then I can do .5cc to inject which would be 250iu. I'm trying to do 250iu 2x a week. Isn't the logic ok?

 

[Sworder]

Sorry, not following you. What's the water that they give?

What do you mean keep the volume down? I thought diluting it to 500iu/ml is good because then I can do .5cc to inject which would be 250iu. I'm trying to do 250iu 2x a week. Isn't the logic ok?

The water you took a picture of.

Volume, you could dilute to 1000iu hCG in a 5ml vial and then you cut the volume down on the liquid.

Like I already told you, you can do it your way as well. I just don't like injecting too much water.

 

[Swim]

You can use the water that is included in the kit l

Can I use sterile water instead of the bac. water?

using sterile water for hcg when you plan on multiple injections as opposed to one is not a good idea. sterile water is no longer sterile after you insert that needle. you're putting a needle exposed to the air and thus possible contaminants in there, opening yourself up to the risk of infections. bac water contains benzoyl alcohol, like your gear does, to stop bacteria growth . don't listen to sworder. get some bac water and protect yourself.

 

[Sworder]

using sterile water for hcg when you plan on multiple injections as opposed to one is not a good idea. sterile water is no longer sterile after you insert that needle. you're putting a needle exposed to the air and thus possible contaminants in there, opening yourself up to the risk of infections. bac water contains benzoyl alcohol, like your gear does, to stop bacteria growth . don't listen to sworder. get some bac water and protect yourself.

Lol newbie.

 

[Swim]

Lol newbie.

Reading your past postings, I'm not the least bit surprised by your response. you're a truly ignorant person. that will be all the interaction I have with you.

 

[InquisitiveT]

using sterile water for hcg when you plan on multiple injections as opposed to one is not a good idea. sterile water is no longer sterile after you insert that needle. you're putting a needle exposed to the air and thus possible contaminants in there, opening yourself up to the risk of infections. bac water contains benzoyl alcohol, like your gear does, to stop bacteria growth . don't listen to sworder. get some bac water and protect yourself.

Thanks. Yes I will use the bac water, I have some anyways and was planning on it. Just wanted to know about the sterile water.

Another thing is, I'm already into my cycle (standard Test E 500mg/week). Not my first cycle, AI , PCT and all that is set obviously. But last cycle on Test E, I didn't use hcg and recovery was just a bit longer than I wanted.

I'm using the HCG to make recovery easier this time during PCT and just be "safer" in general. I'm 2 weeks in. Should I just start it now? I was thinking to start it around week 5 or so and just use it till the last pin. I hear so many differing views on the usage (e.g. use through out cycle, blast it just for last 2 weeks, etc...)

 

[Swim]

Thanks. Yes I will use the bac water, I have some anyways and was planning on it. Just wanted to know about the sterile water.

Another thing is, I'm already into my cycle (standard Test E 500mg/week). Not my first cycle, AI , PCT and all that is set obviously. But last cycle on Test E, I didn't use hcg and recovery was just a bit longer than I wanted.

I'm using the HCG to make recovery easier this time during PCT and just be "safer" in general. I'm 2 weeks in. Should I just start it now? I was thinking to start it around week 5 or so and just use it till the last pin. I hear so many differing views on the usage (e.g. use through out cycle, blast it just for last 2 weeks, etc...)

Honestly someone else more experience would have to tell you on that as I'm not super experienced with it or cycling in general. though,
i started mine after week two and I'm running it to the end of the 12 weeks. week 6 now and my balls are still quite plump so at least it seems it has kept testicular atrophy at least to an unnoticeable amount. from my reading, starting sooner than later is better but how much better is debatable and guess would depend on how late is late. though, again, my experience is quite limited and I would suggest reading thru some other threads here. there are quite a few on hcg use if you use the search bar

 

[C-Dale]

what you have is really intended for a large single dose, this is why there is no vial. It's largely used in this manner for fertility reasons, but you can use this for longer term, smaller doses if done right. Sterile water is mainly used for single dose because it's once and done, no major risk of infection. Longer term storage and multiple doses, I prefer BAC water to reduce infection risk. At 5000 IU's, I would reconstitute with 1 mL of BAC water and use 5 IU's 2x/wk during my cycle. This keeps the leydig cells functioning for quicker recovery.

Personally, I would draw up the entire 1 mL into a 100 IU slin (29 gauge x 1/2") and sub-Q 5 IU's 2x/wk into belly fat. Clean the area well and refrigerate the product to keep risk of infection down. Some might advise using a fresh pin and if that's your position, then use a swap-able style syringe. Draw back a little air, swap in a fresh needle and push out the air. I prefer to use HCG during my cycle at the stated dose.

As for end of a cycle, some people use a larger amount to restart the leydig cells near the time the esters are clearing. The exact timing would be dependent on the ester used but usually in the last two weeks of ester clearance. Ideally you want the ester half-lives to be reduced to near your base-line endo-test level so the action of the HCG will help restart function. However, HCG takes about 3-4 days to clear so LH/FSH production from the HPTA will not occur while large doses of HCG are still present.

Hope this helps...

 

[InquisitiveT]

what you have is really intended for a large single dose, this is why there is no vial. It's largely used in this manner for fertility reasons, but you can use this for longer term, smaller doses if done right. Sterile water is mainly used for single dose because it's once and done, no major risk of infection. Longer term storage and multiple doses, I prefer BAC water to reduce infection risk. At 5000 IU's, I would reconstitute with 1 mL of BAC water and use 5 IU's 2x/wk during my cycle. This keeps the leydig cells functioning for quicker recovery.

Personally, I would draw up the entire 1 mL into a 100 IU slin (29 gauge x 1/2") and sub-Q 5 IU's 2x/wk into belly fat. Clean the area well and refrigerate the product to keep risk of infection down. Some might advise using a fresh pin and if that's your position, then use a swap-able style syringe. Draw back a little air, swap in a fresh needle and push out the air. I prefer to use HCG during my cycle at the stated dose.

As for end of a cycle, some people use a larger amount to restart the leydig cells near the time the esters are clearing. The exact timing would be dependent on the ester used but usually in the last two weeks of ester clearance. Ideally you want the ester half-lives to be reduced to near your base-line endo-test level so the action of the HCG will help restart function. However, HCG takes about 3-4 days to clear so LH/FSH production from the HPTA will not occur while large doses of HCG are still present.

Hope this helps...

Hi, thanks for this. I think the approach you've listed is what I'm also trying to do.

So I would put in 1mL bac-water into the powder. Shake it around a little.

I would then take this mixed solution and put it into a sterile empty vial.

I would then add XXX amount more of more bac-water so I can dilute it into what you said. Can you help me on this "XXX" part?

I think what I want to do is simply take 250iu 2x a week. I'm assuming your "5 IU" is 500iu per pin.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Sworder]

Reading your past postings, I'm not the least bit surprised by your response. you're a truly ignorant person. that will be all the interaction I have with you.

There are so many retarded holes in your post I don't dare to continue the conversation. Think about what you said, the part about exposing the needle to the air and risking contamination and where-else that applies. Using the water that the pharmaceutical company provided is a bad idea you say? I mean the term "bad idea" is really what you want to use? Studies have shown that bac water actually increases the shelf life of hcg but you didn't know that. So I don't know why you are arguing with me, the term bad idea is just dumb so is the rest of you shit. Smarten up. And I am not ignorant, being ignorant and thinking you know it all is when you are stupid. I am open minded, and I don't know all.

 

[C-Dale]

Hi, thanks for this. I think the approach you've listed is what I'm also trying to do.

So I would put in 1mL bac-water into the powder. Shake it around a little.

I would then take this mixed solution and put it into a sterile empty vial.

I would then add XXX amount more of more bac-water so I can dilute it into what you said. Can you help me on this "XXX" part?

I think what I want to do is simply take 250iu 2x a week. I'm assuming your "5 IU" is 500iu per pin.

Thanks for your help.

Do you math, even? 5000 IU HCG / 100 IU BAC = 50 IU of HCG per 1 IU of reconstituted mix. So, every 5 IU's of your freshly reconned mix is (50x5) 250 IU dosed.

It's really simple. Throw away the sterile water and take one mL of BAC water and recon your HCG, draw it back up into your preferred SLIN and dose 5 IU's of product 2 times a week.

 

[master.on]

Hi all,

I've got HCG that looks like the picture below.

As you can see, they're not ordinary vials. From the research I've done, these are called 'amps.' It's 5000iu worth.

But I have no idea how to set this up. Can someone help direct on it? All videos I look for are using the regular vials.

I'm assuming:

-I have to reconstitute using the solvent (green amp) into an empty vial
-Mix the powder (yellow amp) into that empty vial
-Do the tops just snap off?

But where does the sterile/bac. water come into play? Also - can I use sterile water? People say bac. water is the way to go for HCG.

Any help or few logical steps to get me started would be most appreciated. Thanks.

being amps they were intended for single use, so you'd need a sterile vial

open both amps
draw water with a syringe and pour in the powder vial
swirl
once well mixed, draw with syringe and inject in a sterile vial

HCG usually comes with bac water
but it never hurts to check with the manufacturer

 

[Dr JIM]

Hi all,

I've got HCG that looks like the picture below.

As you can see, they're not ordinary vials. From the research I've done, these are called 'amps.' It's 5000iu worth.

But I have no idea how to set this up. Can someone help direct on it? All videos I look for are using the regular vials.

I'm assuming:

-I have to reconstitute using the solvent (green amp) into an empty vial
-Mix the powder (yellow amp) into that empty vial
-Do the tops just snap off?

But where does the sterile/bac. water come into play? Also - can I use sterile water? People say bac. water is the way to go for HCG.

Any help or few logical steps to get me started would be most appreciated. Thanks.

Let me suggest you forget pinning ANYTHING!