Beam me up scotty
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I've been lurking around and learning things ....great site, forums, etc. Finally a place where hopefully one can get the straight dope.
I little bit about me ..male..49...5' 8 1/2" 170lbs...bf 16%...I've done one cycle.....My gym "bro" set me up on it. 400 test c and 50 eq a week . He had intended to for me to just cruise that indefinitely kinda as a hrt/cycle hybrid and, I believe, so he could keep selling me gear at a high price . But as I began to learn for myself I took myself off it after 12 weeks... unfortunately I hadn't learned about pct yet. The crash sorta sucks....you really have to stay disciplined and grind through it but there's not much desire too that's for sure. But my nuts are back now and i'm pretty much back to where i was as far as motivation and works and such. Not quite as strong and lost some muscle but not much. I partnered with a fellow who was the same age, height, weight, and slightly less strong than me. We worked dr. stoppani's short cut to size together me on what I think was probably under dosed omega lab gear and him natty. I gained 12 pounds lean muscle and dropped from 22bf to 16bf. He gained 7-8 pounds and leaned out some. He pretty much scaled up in weights with me but was beginning to fall off some toward the end. I kicked his tail on the bench press.
So I am considering a second cycle and would like to get this one right so any feed back would be appreciated.
week 1-10 Test E 250 (500mg week)
week 1-4 dbol .25mg ED
week 11-13 Test P 100 EOD
week 2-13 amex .5mg ED
3 days after last prop pin start nolva 40/40/20/20
Notes....I'm considering swapping a prop kicker for the dbol and saving dbol for the next cycle. Hcg? I've read so many different thing as to dosage....during cycle...as pre pct...etc...so confused..seems kinda like a luxury....my nuts didn't get that little last time and bounced right back without a pct. Clomid....is it worth the extra expense...some say yes..some say no..both have research to support their position....I would love to hear some thoughts on that one. I have also considered running 400 EQ week....but it seams it's too short of a run for that and not sure it's worth the investment....oh....I'm also considering front loading the TEST E the first week.
Thanks in advance for any suggestion....criticisms...etc that ya'll decide to share.
I little bit about me ..male..49...5' 8 1/2" 170lbs...bf 16%...I've done one cycle.....My gym "bro" set me up on it. 400 test c and 50 eq a week . He had intended to for me to just cruise that indefinitely kinda as a hrt/cycle hybrid and, I believe, so he could keep selling me gear at a high price . But as I began to learn for myself I took myself off it after 12 weeks... unfortunately I hadn't learned about pct yet. The crash sorta sucks....you really have to stay disciplined and grind through it but there's not much desire too that's for sure. But my nuts are back now and i'm pretty much back to where i was as far as motivation and works and such. Not quite as strong and lost some muscle but not much. I partnered with a fellow who was the same age, height, weight, and slightly less strong than me. We worked dr. stoppani's short cut to size together me on what I think was probably under dosed omega lab gear and him natty. I gained 12 pounds lean muscle and dropped from 22bf to 16bf. He gained 7-8 pounds and leaned out some. He pretty much scaled up in weights with me but was beginning to fall off some toward the end. I kicked his tail on the bench press.
So I am considering a second cycle and would like to get this one right so any feed back would be appreciated.
week 1-10 Test E 250 (500mg week)
week 1-4 dbol .25mg ED
week 11-13 Test P 100 EOD
week 2-13 amex .5mg ED
3 days after last prop pin start nolva 40/40/20/20
Notes....I'm considering swapping a prop kicker for the dbol and saving dbol for the next cycle. Hcg? I've read so many different thing as to dosage....during cycle...as pre pct...etc...so confused..seems kinda like a luxury....my nuts didn't get that little last time and bounced right back without a pct. Clomid....is it worth the extra expense...some say yes..some say no..both have research to support their position....I would love to hear some thoughts on that one. I have also considered running 400 EQ week....but it seams it's too short of a run for that and not sure it's worth the investment....oh....I'm also considering front loading the TEST E the first week.
Thanks in advance for any suggestion....criticisms...etc that ya'll decide to share.
