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Westin

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Hey,

I'm looking forward to becoming a member of this awesome community. Also being a lurker here for nearly 3 years, I have interests in bodybuilding and I love strength training as well. I am starting bnc soon and I can't wait to share my experiences

Glad to be here
 
Thanks!
Alright!....
I am 22 years old
205lbs
17% body fat

I've been lifting for about 4 years. During that time i was dedicated to making size and strength gains naturally, I ended up with a 350 bench, 450 squat, and a 500lb trap bar deadlift. Currently I have some issues with form and flexibility so I am taking it easy with squats and deadlifts and working on stretching.

In October of 2017 found out I had low t, so I put myself trt and using ugl test. So far all is well according to bloodwork.
I've been using proviron as well to aid fat loss and to treat my recently diagnosed depression as well. I started dieting at 25ish percent body fat in September and So far I'm really enjoying my decision, and surprised how lean I have gotten and how much strength I have retained.

I've been very excited to be here searching the steroid underground and learning new things every day from you all:)
 
Welcome to Meso brother an with thsoe numbers its hard to believe you got low t lol. Anyways now you got me curious what your natty T numbers are? How do you know you have low t? Do you just feel like you have low t or did you actually go to a doc? We'd all appreciate to see jus how low they are????
 
Hey guys,
What happened was I was planning my first test cycle and I ran pre cycle T bloods at 2pm in October 2017 and my test came back at 231 ng/dl, I told my kiaser doc and she had me retested in the morning and it came back at 321 ng/dl. I also followed up with free test and other various blood test to rule out pituitary issues. Thought to myself "well shit, time for trt/Bnc" Around that time i started to suffer from depression as well, I fucking took action and started self trt. No regrets and I am happy. As a matter of fact, 3 days ago I went to see a good family friend who is a doc and has his private medical clinic. I told him what I had been up to and I presented him with all my own bloodwork, pins, and my ugl test e. He granted me a prescription to test cyp.
 
In all honesty, I did fuck around with msten and ment about two years ago. Did no bloodwork and it was an immature stupid "cycle" but I did a pct, it is probably the main reason my test was all low
 
With your age on your side you probably could have recovered without self TRT. Wasnt the best option because now your stuck on it for life. At least you realize what you did wrong.
 
Supermariod...Got anything good to say about my situation? I decided to do what's best for me. Maybe I could have recovered, yes. Maybe I can still recover, and maybe I should. Will I come off and let my nuts work again? Maybe I am wrong, stupid and young, but right now I think trt is actually pretty beneficial. At this point my life has come to a point where the worst is behind me. I get to be responsible and manage my own hormones, and I'll never have to worry about low t again unless I get Demetia when I'm old and I forget to Inject myself. I am not planing on having kids, and neither is my lovely fiancé. If I do want kids, there is fertility treatment. And now I have the privilege of blasting and cruising if I chose to do so.
Damn, for fucks sake this is a aas support forum, and you make me feel bad and dumb for jumping on the T...wtf
 
Supermariod...Got anything good to say about my situation? I decided to do what's best for me. Maybe I could have recovered, yes. Maybe I can still recover, and maybe I should. Will I come off and let my nuts work again? Maybe I am wrong, stupid and young, but right now I think trt is actually pretty beneficial. At this point my life has come to a point where the worst is behind me. I get to be responsible and manage my own hormones, and I'll never have to worry about low t again unless I get Demetia when I'm old and I forget to Inject myself. I am not planing on having kids, and neither is my lovely fiancé. If I do want kids, there is fertility treatment. And now I have the privilege of blasting and cruising if I chose to do so.
Damn, for fucks sake this is a aas support forum, and you make me feel bad and dumb for jumping on the T...wtf

This forum is about harm reduction. Do you think self subscribing yourself TRT at 22 years old is smart? No I have nothing good to say about your situation. TRT should be one of your last options, not your first. TRT is a lifetime commitment. You should have talked to a few doctors about your situation and how you can fix it. You should have tried to correct the problem before even thinking about TRT. Saying "well shit time for trt/bnc" " I took action and started self trt" sounds very immature and stupid. You said it yourself in your last post, you are wrong, stupid, and young.

You had a couple low test results and jump on TRT for life. I would understand this more if you were in your 50's, but your too young bro. And your families friend doc is stupid for letting you jump on TRT without even trying to fix the problem first.

We support doing cycles the right way here on Meso. With proper PCT. We dont support 22 year olds self subscibing TRT. I recommend you stop the TRT before its too late and try to fix the problem.
 
@Westin, Im sorry but i have to agree here with @SuperMaroid, I think you jumped the gun. And I think your so-called family friend doctor misled you. You ever here the saying "you get what you paid for"? I that that lack of critical interest resulted in half-hazard prescription of Test C.
A couple professional opinions for any endocrinologists might have helped you better evaluated your situation.

Nevertheless, you are young, and at your age, the human body is remarkably forgiving. Nothing will be lost by cumming off any exogenous hormone. At the very least go see a doctor NOW, and be forthright about everything, see what he says. Then make an educated decision about the rest of your life. You came here to us for advise, and that's what you will get. Some of use may be rude but most if not all of us mean well. However you won't find hugs and endless love here. We DO give a shit about you as our brother, but no one is going to change your diapers for you either.

Keep us posted of your development, and good luck to you.
 
Hm, I actually do appreciate your input guys. To be honest Maybe i shouldn't have been so open. But if anything changes from now on, I will update for you all
Thankyou
 
Hm, I actually do appreciate your input guys. To be honest Maybe i shouldn't have been so open. But if anything changes from now on, I will update for you all
Thankyou

Didnt mean to sound like a dick. I have good intentions. Its good that you were open so we could give you some real advice.

Hopefully you take our advice into consideration. Because if your on Test too long there is no turning back.
 
Welcome to Meso,

I agree with the guys above. I am on TRT. My test was 278 and I wish it would have been 750 naturally.

When you had your blood checked how long had it been after your first experiment with AAS. From your post above it sounds like it was before your labs.

If so you were shut down at least partially. I'd bet if you did a good PCT you would be way above 300. You may be much much higher.

You should really consider this. Doesn't mean you can't still cycle but don't just jump on TRT at your age. You will regret it.
 
Welcome to Meso,

I agree with the guys above. I am on TRT. My test was 278 and I wish it would have been 750 naturally.

When you had your blood checked how long had it been after your first experiment with AAS. From your post above it sounds like it was before your labs.

If so you were shut down at least partially. I'd bet if you did a good PCT you would be way above 300. You may be much much higher.

You should really consider this. Doesn't mean you can't still cycle but don't just jump on TRT at your age. You will regret it.

I used msten and ment from January-march of 2016, did a pct with Pharma grade clomid and nolva. I didn't do bloodwork and felt as if I recovered fine. Then I did bloodwork just a couple of months ago and found out that T was low, besides just the low t result, my progress in the gym was stalling in all sorts of ways and I was starting to suffer from low mood/depression. By going on trt I felt as if I had nothing to lose
 
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