Help - Low BP and high RHR on cycle??

[Raiders789]

I’ve no experience with tirz. Lots if incomplete studies on all these GLPs in general. There are others similar to Tirz that have been shown to reduce iron levels. Now that very well could be the reduction in food intake for those studies. If you’re concerned or seeing reduced iron levels in bloods no harm in adding in that. I come from a world of troubleshooting and that can be applied to day to day life. So let’s run through basic trouble shooting. Anytime you add multiple variables finding the root cause becomes more difficult. Hard to pinpoint what fixes or solves the problem with multiple variables being added at once. Not everyone may agree but maybe try this. Drop everything but your test. Run a trt dose titrate up and evaluate. Then add the next piece that is important for your goal evaluate and titrate up and so on and so forth. Might not be what you want to hear or do but you only get one life and it’s ultimately your decision.

No bro I 100% am on the same page. As far as the tirz I'm not too worried about the reduced iron levels; from my understanding that is a side seen from all glps due to the slowed gastric emptying and reduced heme iron uptake. If anything, I think the lower rhr from swapping the reta for tirz could help raise my bp a bit which would be good, but prob won't be a very big difference. Regardless since ive been supplementing iron my values are in range and I'm not too worried.

But I agree with your other point - I'm using so much polypharmacy I feel like I'm running in circles trying to pinpoint what's causing the low bp issue. My plan is to at least keep everything constant until I see the cardiologist, and if he can pinpoint what the issue is then problem solved. But if not I'm going to clean out and drop to trt only, and after I'm stable slowly add compounds back into the mix to pinpoint what the issue is. Regardless I only plan to blast for at max 4 more weeks anyway, but depending on how the fludrocortisone works and what the cardio says I might cut it short.

 

[Dial It In]

Funny how high the success rate is in Sema and Tirz extended trials with people using a single GLP, once weekly dosing, gradually titrating to a stable maintainance dose, no longer experiencing any sides whatsoever, for 3-4 years+

Seems like the "unique", chaotic protocols UGL users often follow maximize side effects and ensure they're a continuous problem.

Yeah more isn’t always better. I run Reta at 2 in prep and 3-4 in a bulk and have seen no issues. I also titrate back up and titrate down as I go. Just my choice and it’s been successful for me so far.

 

[Eddie.]

diastolic at 43 bro how do you feel with it that low? Mine drops into the low 50s and occasionally high 40s and I feel like death.

I've been considering ivabradine, but my only concern would be possibly getting the same results as nebivolol. My thought process is that if I manually slow my hr down, my bp would decrease further as a result and just make things worse. But it really doesn't touch your bp? I'm gonna look into it more because that sounds like a godsend. My rhr is sitting around 75-80 on cycle with the reta which I'm not bothered by too much, but ideally I'd want it lower.

Well tbh i didn't felt anything, which isn't good because i maybe pass out without having any signs. It stayed like this for 1-2 days until nebivolol started fading, my daily usual diastolic is 53-58 despite if I'm on low gear or higher gear. Systolic hovers from 108 to 118 and it's more susceptible to gear changes.

Ivabradine yes, it doesn't alter my BP at all. I hope it stays that way.

 

[Avies48]

Hey guys thought I'd share another update -

So all the gi tests came back negative. Still having the same issues, seems like mega dosing the salt only helped for a few days but then back to square one.

My next thought was that I could have been dealing with blood sugar issues, specifically reactive hypoglycemia, since 6IU's of growth was the highest I've gone and usually I'll eat 600-700g of carbs per day from a lot of higher GI sources. Two weeks ago I took out the gh for a week and switched to majority whole grain carb sources and have been wearing a cgm. didn't really notice much of a change in the instances of low blood pressure, so I went back to my normal diet before adding in GH. I was also taking 500mg berberine at the time with my biggest carb meals, and my blood sugar would drop to ~3mmol confirming the reactive hypo. That correlated with some low bp and brain fog symptoms, so I dropped the berberine and haven't gone hypo since.

Reintroduced gh about a week ago and have put on a lot of water, but no noticeable effect on the low bp. It'll still average around 95/60 in the morning and I still get all the low bp sides.

I saw my gp about it and he put me in a 24hr blood pressure monitor. Majority of the time my bp averaged ~90s/60s with some systolic measurements getting into the 80s and confirmed that I had postural hypotension. We discussed it today and he prescribed me 100mcg fludrocortisone. I guess it takes a few weeks to reach full effect but I'm really hoping this finally solves this problem. I also have some midodrine on the way from india in case the fludrocortisone isn't effective, since my gp wants to give it a month before trying the mido. Also gonna see a cardiologist next week to get an echo + stress test just to make sure there isn't anything serious going on, although I think thats unlikely.

I switched up my cycle and now I'm running 300 test 400npp; I'm hoping the nandrone can help heal a recent scaphoid fracture and maybe boost the bp a bit. The 400npp + 6iu gh + fludrocortisone really has me feeling like the Michelin man, since adding these 3 I've put on 8lbs of water so far.

Reactive hypoglycemia…. Fix it by using magnesium at each meal… tons of studies showing this has helped… i also have reactive.. and wear a cgm… tonight ate dinner glucose went up to 135 and within an hr after eating decided to drop down to 59…. Felt like shitake… then my alarm went off… i didnt take magnesium at dinner… and realized it does help…