help: salvage winny suspension brew

[y777]

hi guys

this was my second time brewing win suspension. first timelast year i just used 2/20 and no super solvents

after using it for part of a cycle i got insane PIP and inflammation. glutes were swollen for weeks and i could barely walk and get up for. seated position.

this time around i found a recipe w guailcol for suspension. and used it.

the recipe called for mixing the solvents with the powder and heting it. THEN filtering in distilled water into the vial. suppose this is because the solvents and winny have high boiling point so you don’t wanna add water before the powder is melted and suspended.

anyway , i’ve pinned it after brewing. looked fine , albeit lump and weeklong still persists (i may just suck up the first liver pass and do oral winny but for another thread.

my question to y'all is how do i salvage what i’ve brewed so far ? it’s now at a point where the water has separated completely from the super solvent /hormone mix and it just looks ugly.

should i draw ur out of the vial, throw it into a beaker and heat it until the water evaporates and then throw a carrier oil into it ? essentially use the same volume of carrief oil that the recipe called for me to use distilled water ? (or use EO inetaad of the oil ). would this be doable for getting rid of the water ?

the brew was 50mg strength.

side note: i haven’t brewed any winny oils but ihave used the finished oils from QSC and had zero pip or swelling issues

thoughts ?

any help is much appreciated

thanks.

 

[laclark89]

hi guys

this was my second time brewing win suspension. first timelast year i just used 2/20 and no super solvents

after using it for part of a cycle i got insane PIP and inflammation. glutes were swollen for weeks and i could barely walk and get up for. seated position.

this time around i found a recipe w guailcol for suspension. and used it.

the recipe called for mixing the solvents with the powder and heting it. THEN filtering in distilled water into the vial. suppose this is because the solvents and winny have high boiling point so you don’t wanna add water before the powder is melted and suspended.

anyway , i’ve pinned it after brewing. looked fine , albeit lump and weeklong still persists (i may just suck up the first liver pass and do oral winny but for another thread.

my question to y'all is how do i salvage what i’ve brewed so far ? it’s now at a point where the water has separated completely from the super solvent /hormone mix and it just looks ugly.

should i draw ur out of the vial, throw it into a beaker and heat it until the water evaporates and then throw a carrier oil into it ? essentially use the same volume of carrief oil that the recipe called for me to use distilled water ? (or use EO inetaad of the oil ). would this be doable for getting rid of the water ?

the brew was 50mg strength.

side note: i haven’t brewed any winny oils but ihave used the finished oils from QSC and had zero pip or swelling issues

thoughts ?

any help is much appreciated

thanks.

If ur glutes where really swollen and hurting for weeks u had a infection. Imo anything over 1 week is most likely an infection.

Winstrol suspension your begging for pip or a infection that's 1 thing I'll never use.
I think that's why guys prefer oral winnie now days even though its probably more toxic.

 

[nightprowler7]

You can drink the suspension. It's still orally active

That guac isn't going to taste great though

 

[lift4lyfe]

If ur glutes where really swollen and hurting for weeks u had a infection. Imo anything over 1 week is most likely an infection.

Winstrol suspension your begging for pip or a infection that's 1 thing I'll never use.
I think that's why guys prefer oral winnie now days even though its probably more toxic.

I'm going to jump in to give my personal experience (not with win suspension but with swelling). In my opinion, having inflammation/swelling for over a week isn't necessarily an infection.

My interpretation of "infection" is that an infectious agent (bacteria, virus, etc.) got into the oil and injection site.

From personal experience, you can have swelling and tenderness to touch for over a week just from a reaction to the compound you injected. You don't need an infectious agent to develop that sort of reaction to an injection.

 

[laclark89]

I'm going to jump in to give my personal experience (not with win suspension but with swelling). In my opinion, having inflammation/swelling for over a week isn't necessarily an infection.

My interpretation of "infection" is that an infectious agent (bacteria, virus, etc.) got into the oil and injection site.

From personal experience, you can have swelling and tenderness to touch for over a week just from a reaction to the compound you injected. You don't need an infectious agent to develop that sort of reaction to an injection.

I agree with u I guess. But i never had a lump soreness or redness longer than 7 days or a infection thank god.

I think the longer u have irritation at a injection site like that the more likely u will get a infection.

This guys a dr. See what he says.

View: https://youtu.be/wtUXs1hTla8?si=Fb93Vg4Gb3G3SPLo

 

[lift4lyfe]

I agree with u I guess. But i never had a lump soreness or redness longer than 7 days or a infection thank god.

I think the longer u have irritation at a injection site like that the more likely u will get a infection.

The last time I used quads (many years ago), I got an infection. It spread very quickly (~24-48 hours) and my entire quad turned red. Could barely walk and my blood pressure was through the roof. Went away quickly once I started antibiotics.

I've had many "local reactions" (terminology used by the doctor in your youtube video), but those didn't feel anything like the quad infection I had.

My two cents.

 

[Denicnut2427]

hi guys

this was my second time brewing win suspension. first timelast year i just used 2/20 and no super solvents

after using it for part of a cycle i got insane PIP and inflammation. glutes were swollen for weeks and i could barely walk and get up for. seated position.

this time around i found a recipe w guailcol for suspension. and used it.

the recipe called for mixing the solvents with the powder and heting it. THEN filtering in distilled water into the vial. suppose this is because the solvents and winny have high boiling point so you don’t wanna add water before the powder is melted and suspended.

anyway , i’ve pinned it after brewing. looked fine , albeit lump and weeklong still persists (i may just suck up the first liver pass and do oral winny but for another thread.

my question to y'all is how do i salvage what i’ve brewed so far ? it’s now at a point where the water has separated completely from the super solvent /hormone mix and it just looks ugly.

should i draw ur out of the vial, throw it into a beaker and heat it until the water evaporates and then throw a carrier oil into it ? essentially use the same volume of carrief oil that the recipe called for me to use distilled water ? (or use EO inetaad of the oil ). would this be doable for getting rid of the water ?

the brew was 50mg strength.

side note: i haven’t brewed any winny oils but ihave used the finished oils from QSC and had zero pip or swelling issues

thoughts ?

any help is much appreciated

thanks.

I would just shake it good and draw it out and drink it…try another batch make sure you have micronized powder and do suspension in water or if you go with solvents and EO or guaiacol just use the absolute min to hold it at 50mg suspended….winstrol oil put a sterile lypoma in my shoulder but I ahot too much too and too soon I’m the same delt

 

[y777]

Guys. Thanks everyone for tips and feedback. After the swelling subsided I kept staring at the vial. The water separated from the solvents. But shaking it seems to have done the trick. Draw w 18g and pin w 25g 1.5 inches into middle glute. . I avoided any areas close to the hip cuz they’d affect my walking afterwards.

Anyway. I wondered if taking an anti inflammatory would help pre-empt swelling and welts so I took some diclofenac 75 mg at time of pinning 1ml (50mg) and another dose of both winny and diclofenac the next day. So far so good. No lumps or swelling of any kind.

I wonder if this protocol is sustainable for a 6-8 week run of IM win suspension

Also has me curious of acquiring some raws -whether diclofenac or another - and brewing it into Win suspension in the future.

 

[lift4lyfe]

Guys. Thanks everyone for tips and feedback. After the swelling subsided I kept staring at the vial. The water separated from the solvents. But shaking it seems to have done the trick. Draw w 18g and pin w 25g 1.5 inches into middle glute. . I avoided any areas close to the hip cuz they’d affect my walking afterwards.

Anyway. I wondered if taking an anti inflammatory would help pre-empt swelling and welts so I took some diclofenac 75 mg at time of pinning 1ml (50mg) and another dose of both winny and diclofenac the next day. So far so good. No lumps or swelling of any kind.

I wonder if this protocol is sustainable for a 6-8 week run of IM win suspension

Also has me curious of acquiring some raws -whether diclofenac or another - and brewing it into Win suspension in the future.

Don’t NSAIDs kill your gains or something? I was avoiding them when dealing with my MCT reactions. Took Benadryl instead.

Get a blood test for white blood cells. The CBC with differential panel is like $12 on ulta after coupon codes: Complete Blood Count (CBC) with Differential and Platelets B

You may be triggering an immune response every time you inject (as I discovered was happening to me with MCT). Unsure if that’s ideal for 6-8 weeks…