HGH - ED vs. EOD

[Get Some]

Ok guys, I've read many articles and profiles on HGH throughout the year and I just wanted to get some comments on what you guys think.

One profile I read suggested taking twice daily injections EOD for 3 to 6 months at a time. It argued that EOD injections resulted in less of a "crash" period after coming off. Supposedly, after discontinuing use with ED injections, the body immediately loses some of the growth it gained, whereas this was much less the case with EOD injections. However, the same profile also states that ED injections will produce better results during usage (that makes sense).

Have any
of you heard of this before? What are your personal experiences with this?

This will be my first time using HGH and I'm looking to do it the right way. My plan is to shoot 2 IU twice a day. I was originally planning to do this on an ED basis, but now I am torn.

Also 2 things...

1. I hear that using HGH in conjunction with IGF-1 LR3 will yield much better results, but I am confused about when the best time to administer the IGF. Same thing with Slin, will that dramatically increase results?

2. I've read that twice daily HGH injections should be administered in the morning and then again in early afternoon, rather than close to bedtime. Will this allow for natural GH secretion to continue to occur at night while sleeping? It would seem to me that natural GH would be suppressed while "ON" but again, I don't know enough about the specifics to comment here.

Bill Roberts - anything you could share about this would be great.

Cheers

 

[newbie23]

i will put in my 2 cents here, keep in mind this is from extended research alon not experience.

your body produces its own natural GH in the middle of the night. there is a study out there saying GH is suppressive to your natural GH for up to 24 hours, although its more than likely 16-18 hours.

so my thoughts would be to shoot it late at night EOD. exogenous GH will take 4-6 hours to become suppressive. so if i shoot it at 12am im hoping that my body will still produce its own before the inject becomes active. this inject will suppress the following nights natty GH production.

so i take a day off, then do it at 12AM aagain hoping that i can get my body to produce its own again.............following me??

also, their is some eveidence proposing that to take full advantage of GH you need to do every 3rd shit intravenously...........although i dont want to be responsible for taking anyone out of the gene the pool.

 

[DastardlyDD]

Switched from 15 IU EOD to ED -> incredible joint pain.
Lowered the dose to approx 10 IU. Pain decreased.
Now I am doing ED shots.

Post Workout (20 minutes after last shake) and Bed time shots. Suppression is high due to increased IGF.
No morning shots because IGF levels are still very elevated after 8 to 12 hours or more (depends on dosage).

This works for me because:

My PWO shot is at 12-13:00 and my bedtime is at 23-24:00.

 

[BarryGrad]

In to here responses.

 

[Get Some]

Bump...

I know a lot of you use or have used HGH. it would be nice to get some solid dosig options before I embark on this adventure

 

[BarryGrad]

I can tell you this much. My friend was on it for 6 months at 4iu daily (2iu in the morning, 2iu late afternoon), and he had increadible strength and wieght gains overtime that he maintained. He went 5 days on 2 days off.

I know that there is a lot of talk about taking days off and personally if I could afford it, I wouldn't take any days off.

 

[getbigmuscles]

You have to take it every day u can take it 6 days a week if ur short on cash.recomended no less then 3-4 ius a day. but if i was money tight i would use anbolics higher effect and lower cost . you should also take test with it

 

[Get Some]

You have to take it every day u can take it 6 days a week if ur short on cash.recomended no less then 3-4 ius a day. but if i was money tight i would use anbolics higher effect and lower cost . you should also take test with it

I am planning on cycling GH for 6 month intervals, during which I will run multiple short AAS cycles.

I am mainly interested in not completely suppressing the natural GH everyday. From what I have read, if you shoot every other day, then you still get the natural GH "flow" EOD rather than not at all. But, since it's full activity lasts around 6 hours, I am wondering if it is possible to get in 2 injections per day plus still have your natral GH work for you. Or is this even something I should be worried about?

BTW, cost is not the issue. I wouldn't even be considering it if I could only "barely" afford it.

 

[MAYO]

Eh bro, if you're cool with second hand info I will give you the dosing regimen of two guys that i train with. One is a national level super-heavy, the other is an impressive hw who does pretty well here regionally. Up to you though. Not gonna waste my time putting it together if you don't want it.

 

[Get Some]

Eh bro, if you're cool with second hand info I will give you the dosing regimen of two guys that i train with. One is a national level super-heavy, the other is an impressive hw who does pretty well here regionally. Up to you though. Not gonna waste my time putting it together if you don't want it.

A good amount of the "personal experience" references I talk about on here are from people I work out with. So, yes, of course I'd be interested. Anything you could provide would be great, thanks.

 

[MAYO]

A good amount of the "personal experience" references I talk about on here are from people I work out with. So, yes, of course I'd be interested. Anything you could provide would be great, thanks.

Gimme a couple days. I'll bump this thread back up when I get the info.

 

[BarryGrad]

I am planning on cycling GH for 6 month intervals, during which I will run multiple short AAS cycles.

I am mainly interested in not completely suppressing the natural GH everyday. From what I have read, if you shoot every other day, then you still get the natural GH "flow" EOD rather than not at all. But, since it's full activity lasts around 6 hours, I am wondering if it is possible to get in 2 injections per day plus still have your natral GH work for you. Or is this even something I should be worried about?

BTW, cost is not the issue. I wouldn't even be considering it if I could only "barely" afford it.

What AAS cycles are you planning to run? Bulking?

 

[Get Some]

What AAS cycles are you planning to run? Bulking?

The next one will be a cutter, just a short 6 weeker. Test P/Tren A/Mast and possibly adding Var/Winny. I can't wait for it! I have great results with short cycles like this. PCT and recovery time is drastically reduced.

I'm planning on running a Test P/NPP/Dbol bulking cycle around November or so. May just use tren again for bulking, but I've heard some good things about NPP so I may give it a shot.

 

[MAYO]

Here is my bro data as promised:

Super Heavy Weight: 5iu 2x ED for 10iu daily. Injects 5 sub-q upon waking and 5 sub-q before bed.

Heavy Weight: 3iu 2x ED for 6iu daily. Injects 3iu im in the am and 3iu im in the evening. He says im is second best to iv for absorption.

 

[BarryGrad]

Here is my bro data as promised:

Super Heavy Weight: 5iu 2x ED for 10iu daily. Injects 5 sub-q upon waking and 5 sub-q before bed.

Heavy Weight: 3iu 2x ED for 6iu daily. Injects 3iu im in the am and 3iu im in the evening. He says im is second best to iv for absorption.

HGH is a subcutaneous injection. Subcutaneous injections allows the drug to enter the capillaries by diffusion or filtration. I have never heard of or advise anyone to due it IM.

 

[MAYO]

HGH is a subcutaneous injection. Subcutaneous injections allows the drug to enter the capillaries by diffusion or filtration. I have never heard of or advise anyone to due it IM.

Like I said in previous posts, this is a second hand account. It is two of my training partners different regimens.

 

[BarryGrad]

Like I said in previous posts, this is a second hand account. It is two of my training partners different regimens.

I'm just stating my opinion from my personal clinical experience administering drugs to my patients.

Not saying that you're wrong, just that I would never tell anyone to do that.

On those two regimens, they injected 7 days a week, with no days off correct? Also, how long did they do it for? 6 months?

 

[solo47]

Hey GS.

I've done a lot of GH in my time, but the past couple of years have gone to growth hormone releasers in peptide injections instead. The exogenous GH did wonders for me but it may have also increased the size of my gut and temporarily added facial flesh (weird as that sounds). (I also got ripped off on a GH order for several grand, so that kind of soured me, too.)

Basic protocol is run 5 iu ED in two injects IF it comes in 10 iu vials. I don't believe those stories that you can avoid suppressing your own GH while you run exogenous GH, but, just in case, I used to do an inject at around three or four or five in the morning (whenever I woke for a piss), so as to let my own GH kick in when I went to sleep but still get a sleep lift from exogenous GH. I got that great GH sleep, so I'd awaken feeling clear & ready. Other inject was immediately PWO.

If you have 8 iu vials, then run 4 iu ED in two injects. Run seven days a week, if you can, or give your schedule a break by going 6/1. Don't get into the crazy big leagues by going over 8 iu ED unless you're prepared for crazy big league sides (some long term). Sub-q or IM, makes no difference in the long run, so why would anyone go IM? (It's true that IV is probably the most effective, but this is not recommended for obvious reasons.) Belly fat or anywhere you can get under the skin will do.

I used to go nine months on and three months off, but I doubt if that allowed my own GH much recovery. I suggest you go on GHRP-2 or GHRP-6, along with GRF(129) or CJC 1295 as soon as you cease your GH long cycle. These peptides will really help kick your own system back into gear.

Best thing about GH is that you really retain your physique in the off-season from AAS!

Solo

 

[HandyManny]

Was gonna post the same study/ make a new thread but I'll bump this. Anyone have more info or anecdotal evidence on this? Ed vs eod? Or methods such as 5 on 2 off, 6 on 1 off?

 

[cobra500]

Imo, its what you can afford matched with what your goals are. I did pharm grade 4iu, 2 morning 2 after I work out in the evening, 5 days a week. I can say that when I stayed on gh I held and kept so much more of the gains I make when I came of aas.