hey this is probably a stupid question, but one i have never seen answered...i was just wondering if HGH would cause bone growth in a child whose plates havent closed; ie: could it make a kid taller???
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eleven11
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Wasn't that its original purpose? I've read on seronos web page thats what it was made for. later on they discovered uses in aids patients, and of course BBers saw its potenial.............11juicecravin said:
cracka
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juicecravin said:
Yes ... that is what it's prescribed for and what it's intended for. Older adults and HIV patients became a secondary market as time went on.
well thanks for answering that guys-
any idea on what dosage, length to run, or side effects if using on a teen? all i know is it can cause a huge growth in your forehead and jawbones, makes organs grow, and give you an arthritis like pain in your joints
any idea on what dosage, length to run, or side effects if using on a teen? all i know is it can cause a huge growth in your forehead and jawbones, makes organs grow, and give you an arthritis like pain in your joints
Well, I would not recommend any sort of drug assistance for a teen. But, I usually try to give safe advice because I know if I don't tell them, they will ask someone else and could possibly get bad advice.
To start, at lower doses, Hgh can be run forever. At a minimum of 4 months would be good. Doses start at 2iu per day and some prefer to run it 5 days on, 2 days off. Hgh does not down regulate, which means it is not suppressive. This is the reason you can run it for as long as you want. At higher doses, some of the sides may become annying though...numbness and tingling in hands and feet, arthritic pain in hands and feet...
From there, when you gain more knowledge on the subject, you can increase doses to 4-8 iu. Remember, side effects are dose related. The higer the dose, the more sides you will get...Abdominal distention with high doses for very long periods of time, bone calcifications, arthritis.
Higher doses are recommended more for older BBers. Even with the side effects, older BBers will REALLY benefit from Hgh for their injuries and other bothersome aches and pains.
To start, at lower doses, Hgh can be run forever. At a minimum of 4 months would be good. Doses start at 2iu per day and some prefer to run it 5 days on, 2 days off. Hgh does not down regulate, which means it is not suppressive. This is the reason you can run it for as long as you want. At higher doses, some of the sides may become annying though...numbness and tingling in hands and feet, arthritic pain in hands and feet...
From there, when you gain more knowledge on the subject, you can increase doses to 4-8 iu. Remember, side effects are dose related. The higer the dose, the more sides you will get...Abdominal distention with high doses for very long periods of time, bone calcifications, arthritis.
Higher doses are recommended more for older BBers. Even with the side effects, older BBers will REALLY benefit from Hgh for their injuries and other bothersome aches and pains.
shortz,
the purpose i am considering hgh for is to help a younger relative of mine increase in height, muscle growth isnt much of a goal for him currently (even though it should be). anyway, thanks for the input but really i was hoping one of the docs around here or somebody who knows a lot about gh (einstein) would chime in.
the purpose i am considering hgh for is to help a younger relative of mine increase in height, muscle growth isnt much of a goal for him currently (even though it should be). anyway, thanks for the input but really i was hoping one of the docs around here or somebody who knows a lot about gh (einstein) would chime in.
einstein1905
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juicecravin said:
I could try to put a negative spin on things, but the truth is....there really isn't any more physical risk for a teen than for an adult. I would say that someone in their teens is in no position to make a potentially life-altering decision. What's the divorce rate for teen marriages? 88% Sure you know exactly what you want when you're 16, 17, 18, whatever. My point is, there certainly are risks, and don't put him in the position to make a decision with irreversible ramifications....you know what I mean?
einstein1905 said:
Nicely put, and expanding from that is your relative from genetically small stock, growth can only fix what needs to be fixed, if your relative has short parents he will gain very little from adding growth. As others have said growth was originally developed to help with non-genetic dwarfism, and I have seen several cases where this has been overcome by everyday injections of hgh, growth WILL shut down your/his own production if used wrongly, I could go into details of how it is administered at the clinic for non-genetic dwarfism, but that would be irresponsible of me. Has your relative been checked for non-genetic dwarfism or does he just want to get taller?? From documented worldwide records it is documented that there is at least a 50% more chance of suffering from various cancers if hgh is given to teens, any legit substance will have that warning with the instructions
thank you both for explaining the dangers in that...i will definitely keep him away from it now, especially since granville says it increases chances of cancer by 50% in teens. do you think you could e-mail or pm me how it is administered clinically - just to satisfy my curiosity. thanks again.
einstein1905
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What Granville said is very true, but he was mentioning stats from clinical studies where GH was used for the purposes you're suggesting. These numbers are just as true for adults....it's just not often talked about. Not to take the sting away from the stats, but when it says that one has a 50% better chance of developing cancer, this means that if one's genetics + environmental factors put someone at a risk of a 4% chance of developing some type of cancer, then administering GH to this individual for X weeks at X dosing, will mean their chance is now 6%. Neither GH nor IGF-1 are carcinogenic themselves, although they are often mislabelled such. they merely exacerbate a pre-existing cancer. They increase the rate of mitosis of a number of different cell types, but without the necessary mutations which characterize cancer, IGF-1 alone ( or GH) is not going to result in cancer. The fact is....that modern man is genetically susceptible to various cancers, in general. So, assume you are at risk, and base your decisions on that. AAS, GH, IGF-1, etc all expedite the rate for development of all types of cancers....don't fool yourself into thinking what we do is harmless. It's a calculated risk, however.
hailtopitt316
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If his height is significantly below average, I would suggest an appointment with an endocronologist. They may prescribe GH to stimulate the pituitary gland. I would highly discourage anyone from self-prescribing HGH to any child or teen. Take care!
Exosist said:
how old was he and what was his start height???
in this case my cousin is 5'6" and 17..his mom is 4'10" and dad is 5'8" and because of this i dont believe a doc would give a script since it is a cosmetic want seeing that he isnt exactly the offspring of giants and he wants to be at least 5'11"/6ft
einstein1905 said:
O agree with this, but wanted to clarify if I have said something wrong. What I meant in my post was that an adult would benefit more from Hgh than a teen because of side effects to gains ratio. (this is only when talking about bbing reasons for using Hgh)
einstein, did you see the question asked on BM about alpineslide and his growth plates? He was asking how Hgh would effect his growth plates. He is in his 30s too. Do you know what would/could happen?
einstein1905
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shortz said:
It'll potentially allow for additional length, but unsealed growth plates aren't so common in the bones that contribute to height. In his case, it was his collar bone, and I'd expect very little, if any, change in length to occur there.
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