HGH without steroids

[BornFluent]

What happens if I take HGH without AAS (Anabolic-androgenic steroids)?

I have discussed this with doctors and got two opinions. One said whether I'm bulking or cutting there will be no benefit without testosterone.

Another doctor said that I could expect increase fat loss, and likely my muscles will be primed to react better for if I do take AAS in the future.

Am I wasting my money I've heard HGH without steroids will do absolutely nothing while cutting? Would you take it or not and what dosage?

 

[F41l0r1337]

Just give it a try... a guy is on 4iu gh daily talking about a good libido and pumps.

 

[amazonas]

Nothing to lose at 2iu a good generic hgh is dirt cheap nowadays, will cost you maybe 3$ per day. Give it a try and report back. Fat loss and cosmetic effects will be there no matter if you are on AAS or natty, but ofc AAS will speed up the process.

 

[Sector]

I'm sure it'll help, generic gh is better than it's ever been (more testing done, and its rather cheap)

That said, you'll absolutely get more bang/$ with AAS, and GH and AAS work VERY synergistically, so what makes you hesitant about adding AAS to the GH, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[petefox]

What happens if I take HGH without AAS (Anabolic-androgenic steroids)?

I have discussed this with doctors and got two opinions. One said whether I'm bulking or cutting there will be no benefit without testosterone.

Another doctor said that I could expect increase fat loss, and likely my muscles will be primed to react better for if I do take AAS in the future.

Am I wasting my money I've heard HGH without steroids will do absolutely nothing while cutting? Would you take it or not and what dosage?

If you fancy HGH on its own, I'd add in injectable L-Carnitine at 200-500mg EOD with your Gh dose (if using before fasted cardio) or LCAR in the morning and Gh before bed.

 

[sushak]

Nothing to lose at 2iu a good generic hgh is dirt cheap nowadays, will cost you maybe 3$ per day. Give it a try and report back. Fat loss and cosmetic effects will be there no matter if you are on AAS or natty, but ofc AAS will speed up the process.

Safe enough to hop on and give it a try for a couple of months?

 

[amazonas]

Safe enough to hop on and give it a try for a couple of months?

Absolutely, HGH doesn't require pct, a month off and my body was back to producing my normal growth hormone range (according to blood work)

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I have discussed this with doctors and got two opinions.

Wat?

 

[songsofpyramids]

I cycle hgh 4 months on 3 off without using any aas and I’ll be doing this for the rest of my life I’m pretty sure. Better pump, better libido, harder dick, better skin, fuller look, epic recovery, decrease in depression and anxiety, more energy in the am, etc. I fucking love the stuff.

 

[BigTomJ]

What happens if I take HGH without AAS (Anabolic-androgenic steroids)?

I have discussed this with doctors and got two opinions. One said whether I'm bulking or cutting there will be no benefit without testosterone.

Another doctor said that I could expect increase fat loss, and likely my muscles will be primed to react better for if I do take AAS in the future.

Am I wasting my money I've heard HGH without steroids will do absolutely nothing while cutting? Would you take it or not and what dosage?

So two medical professionals gave you advice on recreational use of rHgH for a performance enhancement use?

Bullshit, just ask your dumb questions without making up some backstory.

 

[BornFluent]

So two medical professionals gave you advice on recreational use of rHgH for a performance enhancement use?

Bullshit, just ask your dumb questions without making up some backstory.

I know two doctors who have been using gear for a long time. I asked them personally for the advice. Both their opinions conflicted.

Wat?

see above

If you fancy HGH on its own, I'd add in injectable L-Carnitine at 200-500mg EOD with your Gh dose (if using before fasted cardio) or LCAR in the morning and Gh before bed.

Whats a good source? is it worth the money? What do you experience?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Whats a good source? is it worth the money? What do you experience?

Ask your doctor

 

[petefox]

Whats a good source? is it worth the money? What do you experience?

For LCAR many research sites sell it for pretty good prices, for GH there's a section here to look up.

 

[Wunderpus]

So two medical professionals gave you advice on recreational use of rHgH for a performance enhancement use?

Bullshit, just ask your dumb questions without making up some backstory.

In fairness, I've spoken very candidly with many of my MD friends about PEDs... They are generally very receptive and open to discussing the topic.

 

[BigTomJ]

In fairness, I've spoken very candidly with many of my MD friends about PEDs... They are generally very receptive and open to discussing the topic.

As have I.
My primary knows everything I put in my body.

But he's not going to provide cycle advise like OP is pretending he got

 

[Sector]

If you fancy HGH on its own, I'd add in injectable L-Carnitine at 200-500mg EOD with your Gh dose (if using before fasted cardio) or LCAR in the morning and Gh before bed.

I'm curious on the l carnatine too. What have your experiences with it been?

 

[petefox]

I'm curious on the l carnatine too. What have your experiences with it been?

Prior to my script for TRT, I ran 300mg test prop for a good boost. Labs came back 1200ng or so. Pinning 500mg LCAR EOD (1.5g weekly) I had labs done with my new doctor. She knows everything I do and how Marek Health handles my TRT.

After LCAR for 4 weeks my test was 2000ng or more. I remember the ballpark numbers as I'm lazy and need to sort my labs for better reference.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Prior to my script for TRT, I ran 300mg test prop for a good boost. Labs came back 1200ng or so. Pinning 500mg LCAR EOD (1.5g weekly) I had labs done with my new doctor. She knows everything I do and how Marek Health handles my TRT.

After LCAR for 4 weeks my test was 2000ng or more. I remember the ballpark numbers as I'm lazy and need to sort my labs for better reference.

That's crazy. That's not even what LCAR is supposed to do (increase androgen receptor signaling, not testosterone levels).

 

[petefox]

That's crazy. That's not even what LCAR is supposed to do (increase androgen receptor signaling, not testosterone levels).

It's because of the androgen receptor signaling you'll use more test.

My test dose never changed, just my ability to use more of it per shot. Androgen receptors are recycled every 8hrs, if LCAR is speeding that process up while increasing receptor count, you use more test.

 

[AlexDavis43]

It's because of the androgen receptor signaling you'll use more test.

My test dose never changed, just my ability to use more of it per shot. Androgen receptors are recycled every 8hrs, if LCAR is speeding that process up while increasing receptor count, you use more test.

You didn't increase the dose but the amount in your bloodstream increased from 1200 to 2000... how do you conclude that you're using more test from that? Seems like more is sitting around in your bloodstream.

Increased androgen receptors in skeletal muscle should drain more testosterone out of the blood, making you lower than 1200, by your logic.

More likely a fluke measurement or other variables involved.

Doesn't matter if you're making gains... just making conversation