Hi everyone, I'm ruckin

ruckin

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Hey all, I've been researching the steroid game for months if not over a year now and I'm ready to take the next step here. This has really been a big and difficult decision for me.

I've been training drug free for 3 years now and i also play rugby (second row for any of you rugby brahs reading). My lifts are: 295 paused bench, 395 ATG olympic-style squat, 500 deadlift, and 195 strict press. I'm 21 y/o, 6'2, 235 lbs, and bf in the mid-high teens (not gonna pretend like I know the exact number).

I don't want to start my first blast until i can press 200, paused bench 300, squat 400 and dl 500 all for reps, but those numbers will hopefully be coming soon so i want to start participating on the forums now :)

I'm planning on starting conservatively with just 300 mg/week test e for maybe 16 weeks but I haven't decided yet. I'm very open to, and welcome, any and all suggestions and advice!
 
thanks, I'm glad to be here! No I don't have low t, honestly I probably have pretty high natural levels, although I've never had blood work done to check. Just speculation on my part.

I realize that I'm young and ideally I'd like to wait until I'm a little older to start using gear, and I appreciate the concern, but my main reason for wanting to do so is that I want to play rugby at the highest level possible. It's my dream really, and I only have so much time to improve my game as much as I can to make that happen.

Trust me this isn't a decision I'm making lightly. I've been thinking about this for a long time.
 
No matter what you say or how you try and justify it, nobody here will agree with you using aas so young. Say goodbye to your natural test production after you shut yourself down. But if a sport is more important than your health, then good luck!
 
The brothers here know you're going to do what you want in any case, but people are going to give it to you straight so you'll need to be willing to accept that. There are many helpful members, but be mindful of asking for input if you intend to ignore it. Welcome to meso, hope it offers you what you need
 
Welcome also new on me so but been around gear for some time (4yrs) I'm 34 now 21 is really young because you still have a lot of natural test for years to come gear will shut tour natural production of test in your body but its your choice so read learn enjoy and welcome
 
idk i mean if you all really feel this strongly that i'm too young still, then i'm more than willing to listen to and take everyone's advice.

at the same time though i can't afford to wait until i'm 25 as by then my chances of going pro will be dramatically smaller, if there's even any chance left at all by then.

I'd really like to have a real conversation with all of you guys about it, not just "oh you're too young don't even think about it we don't care how extreme your goals are!", "fuck you guys i'm gonna do what I want anyway so thanks for nothing!"

I know you're all older and more experienced than I am when it comes to this so I want to learn as much as I can and make the best decision possible for myself.

edit: also, I'm willing to accept that I might have to stay on trt for life
 
That sounds like reasonable approach, but be careful with the trt for life statements, as that will bring you grief from many good people who do their best here to help guys get their shit back to some sort of functioning normal.
Spend some time, reading and researching. Get involved and take note of the smart guys. They'll be the ones who encourage you to get further info and not take any one persons views as the whole truth. Good luck
 
thanks for the input element. Let me rephrase, I worded that poorly; Obviously I'd prefer not to have to stay on for life, but if the worst case scenario is that things come to that then I'll be able to live with those consequences.
 
thanks, I'm glad to be here! No I don't have low t, honestly I probably have pretty high natural levels, although I've never had blood work done to check. Just speculation on my part.

I realize that I'm young and ideally I'd like to wait until I'm a little older to start using gear, and I appreciate the concern, but my main reason for wanting to do so is that I want to play rugby at the highest level possible. It's my dream really, and I only have so much time to improve my game as much as I can to make that happen.

Trust me this isn't a decision I'm making lightly. I've been thinking about this for a long time.
Welcome to meso ....start a thread you are young but if you have a legit chance to achieve your dream then it can be discussed but you better work on getting the funds and do it right. By legit I dont mean some club in a city with a bunch of working college grads. Start a thread and we can discuss seems like at least you are willing to listen. I know a little about rugby I am going to assume you are a lock. Hope you have a huge neck. Look forward to your thread.
 
Welcome to meso ....start a thread you are young but if you have a legit chance to achieve your dream then it can be discussed but you better work on getting the funds and do it right. By legit I dont mean some club in a city with a bunch of working college grads. Start a thread and we can discuss seems like at least you are willing to listen. I know a little about rugby I am going to assume you are a lock. Hope you have a huge neck. Look forward to your thread.
yessir i'm here to learn and i want to learn as much as i can, i appreciate you giving me a chance and hearing me out too. yes i play lock. might have to play prop this fall season due to my starting tighthead being injured and i'd be our best option at tighthead anyway. my coaches feel that i'm better built to play front row anyway.

you said to start a thread to discuss this, what section of the forum should i do that in?
 
yessir i'm here to learn and i want to learn as much as i can, i appreciate you giving me a chance and hearing me out too. yes i play lock. might have to play prop this fall season due to my starting tighthead being injured and i'd be our best option at tighthead anyway. my coaches feel that i'm better built to play front row anyway.

you said to start a thread to discuss this, what section of the forum should i do that in?

Steroid forum give stats and goals. Be prepared for some feedback on your age. First cycle for young athlete or something like that.
 
Steroid forum give stats and goals. Be prepared for some feedback on your age. First cycle for young athlete or something like that.
thanks a lot, I just started the thread: https://thinksteroids.com/community...a-young-athlete-with-extreme-goals.134357731/

Welcome to the board brother! you picked the best one!
thank you! I've lurked a few of the different forums on the web and this seemed like the best one so I decided to make an account
 
Well get ready with your new topic. Just know that everyone means well here and watches out for one another. So be respectful and just soak it in. Once again welcome little brother you came to the right place.
 
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