high concentration products

[planedriver]

Hello gentleman. About to start my next cycle. Mid 40's lifting almost 5 years now. I have done tren and deca cycles before but only at lower doses. Being researching to the point of exhaustion lol. First question, does anyone know for sure that it is possible to pack say 500mg of EQ into 1ml? Pharmacomlabs has a product like this. They do use EO which I know makes it possible to make more concentrated products.
Second question, anyone do fine with say deca (300mg) only to find trouble jumping up to higher doses (600mg)? I have not had any trouble with the tren or deca so far.

 

[Frank the tank 456]

Hello gentleman. About to start my next cycle. Mid 40's lifting almost 5 years now. I have done tren and deca cycles before but only at lower doses. Being researching to the point of exhaustion lol. First question, does anyone know for sure that it is possible to pack say 500mg of EQ into 1ml? Pharmacomlabs has a product like this. They do use EO which I know makes it possible to make more concentrated products.
Second question, anyone do fine with say deca (300mg) only to find trouble jumping up to higher doses (600mg)? I have not had any trouble with the tren or deca so far.

Why not npp?

 

[planedriver]

I like the fewer injections longer esters provide. My schedule doesn't make frequent injections possible. That said, I have come up with a cycle that does include NPP but also includes some of these "mixes" with high concentrations. Using 1/ml pharmacom labs mix 4 and their NPP twice/week makes for 800mg test e and 600mg nandrolone. Some of the test is shorter ester also in the mix.

 

[Frank the tank 456]

I like the fewer injections longer esters provide. My schedule doesn't make frequent injections possible. That said, I have come up with a cycle that does include NPP but also includes some of these "mixes" with high concentrations. Using 1/ml pharmacom labs mix 4 and their NPP twice/week makes for 800mg test e and 600mg nandrolone. Some of the test is shorter ester also in the mix.

I have not tried any of their products. What I can say is they have been here for over a year now, and that is kinda a big deal at meso. They participate in the anabolic lab program as well. The only experience I personally have with "high concentrations " is some 200 mg prop. It was the most brutal thing I ever pinned.

 

[planedriver]

I have read more than a few statements that high concentrate prop is a bitch. I have tried their mix 3 and I had no problems with the high concentration. Its the stated dosage that I wonder about.

 

[insertnamehere]

Doing just fine with the Deca 600. Soon to try the Test-e 500

 

[planedriver]

Well, no sooner did I post this question and I find an interesting read about high concentration products lol. I am not one to ask a question without vetting it out as much as possible myself. My bad guys. It does appear to be possible to do this without crashing. Test/EQ at 500mg/ml and deca at 600mg/ml is very doable. Just need to find the quality producers they say because poor products crash and can be painful.

 

[canadian mutant]

The solvents needed to get the hormones to hold at that high of concentration must make the pip an absolute bitch.

Also, i know a fairly reputable lab that produces a test1000, anyone know if this is even possible ?

 

[Whoremoans]

The solvents needed to get the hormones to hold at that high of concentration must make the pip an absolute bitch.

Also, i know a fairly reputable lab that produces a test1000, anyone know if this is even possible ?

10 grams of gear in a 10ml vial just sounds impossible.

 

[planedriver]

I have used their Mix 3 high concentration product. No pip goes in slow. Warming helps. I dont think you could use more than 1 1/2 ml though in one shot. On a side note, I have decided to try their Bold500 along with their Test E 300 and Tren E200. Kicking it off with some dbol.

 

[biglumber69]

Hello gentleman. About to start my next cycle. Mid 40's lifting almost 5 years now. I have done tren and deca cycles before but only at lower doses. Being researching to the point of exhaustion lol. First question, does anyone know for sure that it is possible to pack say 500mg of EQ into 1ml? Pharmacomlabs has a product like this. They do use EO which I know makes it possible to make more concentrated products.
Second question, anyone do fine with say deca (300mg) only to find trouble jumping up to higher doses (600mg)? I have not had any trouble with the tren or deca so far.

I would do more injections instead of buying the higher concentration ones. When I try higher concentration I always get pip. I would do the eq 300 and do 1 and half mil twice a week. For at least 15 weeks and make sure to frontload.

 

[Flounder]

I have decided to try their Bold500 along with their Test E 300 and tren E200. Kicking it off with some dbol.

I've used Pharmacom Bold500 and it worked as expected. Very thick and takes a while to draw and inject so use a 23 or larger if you have any. 25's took way too long to inject.

 

[planedriver]

Thanks guys, great info. I use 23g. Flounder, did you try warming the fluid before injecting?

 

[Flounder]

Thanks guys, great info. I use 23g. Flounder, did you try warming the fluid before injecting?

Nah I take it like a man, but bitch like a woman.

Actually would be a good idea though to warm it for obvious reasons.

 

[Sully9999]

The solvents needed to get the hormones to hold at that high of concentration must make the pip an absolute bitch.

Also, i know a fairly reputable lab that produces a test1000, anyone know if this is even possible ?

1000 mg of test ! I'm old enough to remember when 200 mg twice a week of Upjohn or Steris test c with 100 mg of Deca would yield great results. Of course I was in my mid 20's then. Can't imagine 1000 mg. Sorry, off topic I know

 

[planedriver]

Went with the following stack:
300mg test E/ 500mg EQ/ 300mg tren E to start then maybe 400mg
Adding cardarine and Cialis too. The Cialis for the blood flow and mood enhancement not for its original intended purpose. Have not had any trouble in that regard while using tren or deca. Been looking at the following peptide companies, cem-meso, apex, and superior. If anyone has an opinion or info on any of these or others not mentioned please chime in. Also, curious on how some of you guys run the caber. Only if symptoms show up or low dose it every week.

 

[biglumber69]

If by caber you mean cabergoline. I would NOT add it. It does make you rebound between sex rounds quicker. And makes you feel good all the time. But it is a bitch when you have to stop taking it. Your body goes through with draw and you feel depressed. It is like when you are coming down from coke, but for like 3 months. Plus if you take a regular AI you don't need cabergoline. I am speaking from experience. If you do decide to take it plan on it for the rest of your life because you will go through hell when you stop. I will never touch it again.

 

[planedriver]

Biglumber69, thanks for that info! Arimidex EOD it is. Love this forum.