High Test/Low Deca Cycle

[Iron Vett]

Has anyone ever tried a high test, low deca cycle? I've always had blood pressure problems when running moderate cycles of test at 600mg and deca at 3-400 mgs a week. At about the five week mark my blood pressure begins to climb to dangerous levels and I have to terminate the cycle.

Last year I tried Tren for the first time with trt test 100mg test e and 100mg Tren Ace eod. My blood pressure was fine and I really didn't have any uncomfortable sides from the mix.

Any comments are suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Tj72]

I have found that low test, higher tren works for me and personally will probably be the only thing I run from now on. I know your asking about test/deca but I personally (fits me) don't see a reason to run anything else

 

[Iron Vett]

I have found that low test, higher tren works for me and personally will probably be the only thing I run from now on. I know your asking about test/deca but I personally (fits me) don't see a reason to run anything else

My reason for trying deca instead of Tren with low test is that I got good cutting results with Tren but had trouble gaining weight. Now I am curious to see if the anabolic properties of deca would remain with low test and get good bulking properties. I have never tried deca this way and am curious to hear anyone else's point of view. I am also curious to see if my blood pressure will stay low on deca with low test since it stayed low with Tren while running low test.

 

[rugerjitsu]

What exactly where you thinking??

 

[Iron Vett]

What exactly where you thinking??

I'm thinking about running high dose deca with a low dose of trt test and am wondering if anyone here has done this before with deca or nap and how their experience was and the gains made

 

[rugerjitsu]

I'm thinking about running high dose deca with a low dose of trt test and am wondering if anyone here has done this before with deca or nap and how their experience was and the gains made

Exactly what doses tho?? "Low/high dose" is a bit vague...

600mg of test is high for me...maybe not so much for others.

 

[Iron Vett]

Not sure what happened to the doses I had put in that post. 150mg test and maybe around 600 deca

 

[rugerjitsu]

Not sure what happened to the doses I had put in that post. 150mg test and maybe around 600 deca

Okay...600mg/wk of Deca blows me the fuck up. And I've only ran it that high for a few weeks.

If you're not a bb'er or compete in sports, then I would recommend more like 300mg/wk. Just front load it by doing 600mg for the first 2-3 weeks!

Just know, recovery can be a bitch with Deca...

 

[tweek]

Can't comment on the low test, but I recently did a 600mg test, 600mg deca cycle had no issues with blood pressure or anything for that matter. However deca takes a while to get out your system, found that to be the only downside of it for me.

 

[Iron Vett]

Okay...600mg/wk of Deca blows me the fuck up. And I've only ran it that high for a few weeks.

If you're not a bb'er or compete in sports, then I would recommend more like 300mg/wk. Just front load it by doing 600mg for the first 2-3 weeks!

Just know, recovery can be a bitch with Deca...

Oh I know deca very well. I've run it countless times in the past at 200-300 mg per week with test at 500-600 per week. I'm no rookie. I've gained good mass with those cycles too. The problem with me running those compounds at those amounts is it has always given me high blood pressure around week five every time and I have to cut my cycle short.

Now my goals have changed to remain leaner at a lower body weight. Not bulking to gain every pound. I am interested in changing my compound combinations up from what I used to do in the past when all I wanted to do was get huge. Last year was the first time I ever ran a cycle with low test and a moderate amount of another compound and that other compound was Tren. I did not have any blood pressure problems with that cycle. So now I am going to try high test and low deca and I am just looking for experiences from others who have actually ran low test and high deca/npp to see how they felt about that cycle.

 

[stone988]

Everyone is different, I like to run test high like a gram and deca at 200-300 mg a week, even 400 mg I find to be too much. Deca is a great compound but for me I find it most effective with no sides at lower doses. I have also added another compound at a low dose instead of upping the deca.

 

[Iron Vett]

Everyone is different, I like to run test high like a gram and deca at 200-300 mg a week, even 400 mg I find to be too much. Deca is a great compound but for me I find it most effective with no sides at lower doses. I have also added another compound at a low dose instead of upping the deca.

I love test. But I am starting to believe I can only run it at high levels on a test only cycle. I fought it in my younger years with high dose test and some other compounds thrown in the mix and my blood pressure always climbed too high. Now that I am older at 49, I don't feel like taking to many chances with high blood pressure. I guess no one else here has ever tried the low test high deca route so I'm gonna just have to open up my own little research station over here and see what happens. I'm not to worried about deca dick. I've had it sometimes and other times it wasn't a problem. When it did give problems, the dick pills always took care of it. In a few weeks the research will begin.

 

[Rudeness]

I love test. But I am starting to believe I can only run it at high levels on a test only cycle. I fought it in my younger years with high dose test and some other compounds thrown in the mix and my blood pressure always climbed too high. Now that I am older at 49, I don't feel like taking to many chances with high blood pressure. I guess no one else here has ever tried the low test high deca route so I'm gonna just have to open up my own little research station over here and see what happens. I'm not to worried about deca dick. I've had it sometimes and other times it wasn't a problem. When it did give problems, the dick pills always took care of it. In a few weeks the research will begin.

I've run 250 cyp and 500 deca with great results. I'm older than you and had only a slight BP increase.

I have found my bp issues in the past were due to the following

1. Test too high with over 300 pw causing issues
2. Estro not controlled
3. Longer ester test more prone to increase my bp

Oddly enough if I keep my test lower I can run 500 deca without issue. Higher test lower deca raises my bp

 

[Brandaddy]

I was just running 600/400 test and deca. It seemed to go pretty good, the bloat was pretty easy to control, around week 6 I started feeling a lot stronger than normal. Usually I have good and bad days, with that setup everytime I stepped in the gym my weights that were supposed to be an rpe 8 felt like a 6. My blood pressure was always within range, and mid-cycles all came back decent too.

I'd definitely recomend the same cycle to anyone who is looking to bulk up and hit some pr's.

 

[Iron Vett]

I've run 250 cyp and 500 deca with great results. I'm older than you and had only a slight BP increase.

I have found my bp issues in the past were due to the following

1. Test too high with over 300 pw causing issues
2. Estro not controlled
3. Longer ester test more prone to increase my bp

Oddly enough if I keep my test lower I can run 500 deca without issue. Higher test lower deca raises my bp

I'm glad to hear you had success controlling your blood pressure with this compound combination. It gives me some hope that I am not going to be wasting time running this cycle this way. I was about to start just running high test only cycles as well as low test/moderate Tren cycles but I just love what deca does for me. Soon now, very, very soon........ Lol

 

[Iron Vett]

I was just running 600/400 test and deca. It seemed to go pretty good, the bloat was pretty easy to control, around week 6 I started feeling a lot stronger than normal. Usually I have good and bad days, with that setup everytime I stepped in the gym my weights that were supposed to be an rpe 8 felt like a 6. My blood pressure was always within range, and mid-cycles all came back decent too.

I'd definitely recomend the same cycle to anyone who is looking to bulk up and hit some pr's.

I have tried that very test/deca combination many times. I've started to get great results and then bam. About two weeks later I'm having to shut it down because of blood pressure. I control the fluid in most of my body, while using deca, pretty well with adex but continue to carry some bloat in the trunk of my body. I guess it's somewhat like what causes congestive heart problems. It becomes hard to bend over and cardio is not even an option since my heart rate skyrockets with physical exertion. I think if I have problems this time I might introduce some caber just for shits and giggles to see if it helps with the fluid in my chest cavity.

 

[ironbone]

I just lowered my current blast from 500 deca and 600 test to 250 test and 500 deca. It was the smartest thing I ever did. Bloat went away, acne went away, head aches went away.

I'm making amazing gains with no sides. I'll never dose test over 250 again with any other compound.

 

[Brandaddy]

I have tried that very test/deca combination many times. I've started to get great results and then bam. About two weeks later I'm having to shut it down because of blood pressure. I control the fluid in most of my body, while using deca, pretty well with adex but continue to carry some bloat in the trunk of my body. I guess it's somewhat like what causes congestive heart problems. It becomes hard to bend over and cardio is not even an option since my heart rate skyrockets with physical exertion. I think if I have problems this time I might introduce some caber just for shits and giggles to see if it helps with the fluid in my chest cavity.

Huh, that sucks. Usually I sit at 110/70 off cycle, on cycle the highest it ever got was my first cycle I did test/dbol amd one day it measured 148/72. I was bloated up like a whale and downing sodium by the gram though. Lol

 

[Iron Vett]

I just lowered my current blast from 500 deca and 600 test to 250 test and 500 deca. It was the smartest thing I ever did. Bloat went away, acne went away, head aches went away.

I'm making amazing gains with no sides. I'll never dose test over 250 again with any other compound.

Awesome. More good news for what I'm gonna do.

 

[Iron Vett]

Huh, that sucks. Usually I sit at 110/70 off cycle, on cycle the highest it ever got was my first cycle I did test/dbol amd one day it measured 148/72. I was bloated up like a whale and downing sodium by the gram though. Lol

Just a few weeks ago I was running 600/500 test/deca and blood pressure was doing great. Week 5 came along and it jumped to 165/95 in a matter of days so once again I had to cut my clean bulk short. Went trt for 5 weeks now and blood pressure has gone down so now I'm gonna give this low test a try with my deca.