(HOMEBREW) can normal refined oil be used for brewing?

[carn1t9]

Hi guys,
Planning to do my first steroid homebrew of mast P(I've made 130 vials of l carnitine in last 7 months, never made any oil based stuff so far).

I can't get USP grade oils. Where I come from I can't get. So, please don't suggest products.
Can I use cooking use refined sesame oil ?

Brew quantity: 10g raw
Step 1: Heat refined cooking oil(using OTG oven) Step 2: Let it cool Step 3: Then again heat to approx melting point 200-210F (using OTG oven) [ATTACH type="full"]163641[/ATTACH] Step 4: Add powder. Step 5: Stir using glass rod. Step 6: Add BB, BA once temp slighty down Step 7: Use whatman pvdf 25mm syringe filter along with caulking gun and slowly filter it into vials FINISH


Will the above work ?
Can I use refined sesame cooking oil ?
Can I brew it without magnetic stirrer or hot plate ?

Any inputs will be appreciated, thank you

 

[WannaBeBIG]

Where are you located that you can’t get basic home brew supplies shipped in? Anything is accessible for the right price

 

[Nilatac]

You can use whatever oil you find. The one in the market is g2g. I used in the past gso from the market,now I use a mct oil also bought from the market
But brew without a source of heat especially a short ester will be tricky. Heat help to dissolve the powder in the solvet.
I suggest using some source of heat for example a pan where you put the glass baker and turn the gas cooker or whatever you had at minimum and stir the solvent with the powder until is dissolved but don't let the baker get very hot as is not necessary just warm. If you can keep your hand on the baker is ok
The steps will be like this:
Put the powder,solvent,stir,add the oil and ba and filter
Also letting bb sit with powder over night help to dissolve faster

 

[carn1t9]

Where are you located that you can’t get basic home brew supplies shipped in? Anything is accessible for the right price

pharma grade stuff, the MoQ is pretty high. 5 gallons I don't want to buy.

 

[carn1t9]

You can use whatever oil you find. The one in the market is g2g. I used in the past gso from the market,now I use a mct oil also bought from the market
But brew without a source of heat especially a short ester will be tricky. Heat help to dissolve the powder in the solvet.
I suggest using some source of heat for example a pan where you put the glass baker and turn the gas cooker or whatever you had at minimum and stir the solvent with the powder until is dissolved but don't let the baker get very hot as is not necessary just warm. If you can keep your hand on the baker is ok
The steps will be like this:
Put the powder,solvent,stir,add the oil and ba and filter
Also letting bb sit with powder over night help to dissolve faster

So after filtering it will be sterile and problem free?

I can arrange the heat, the overnight of BB+raw powder also I can do. Thank you for the valuable inputs mate. By any chance, can I ask you some doubts in private?

I'll DM you my protonmail address.

Thanks again.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Refined is a good way to go. Less particulate. An oven can work. I used refined gso from the grocery store. Correct me if im wrong, brewers, but usp is just filtered oil. You will do this when you filter the whole brew

 

[carn1t9]

Refined is a good way to go. Less particulate. An oven can work. I used refined gso from the grocery store. Correct me if im wrong, brewers, but usp is just filtered oil. You will do this when you filter the whole brew

Thank you for the valuable input, I really appreciate it man.

 

[carn1t9]

@Ridethelightningbarefoot @Nilatac @WannaBeBIG

Any of you mind sharing a recipe for Mast P brew with sesame oil, whatever has worked best for you. Please do share.

 

[WannaBeBIG]

@Ridethelightningbarefoot @Nilatac @WannaBeBIG

Any of you mind sharing a recipe for Mast P brew with sesame oil, whatever has worked best for you. Please do share.

Sorry my friend I have never home brewed. I suggest reaching out to @Jet Labs to see if they have some insight. They’re a trusted source here who I’ve purchased from several times and sometimes give advice to home brewers. Might wanna start there. Good luck!

 

[Nilatac]

@Ridethelightningbarefoot @Nilatac @WannaBeBIG

Any of you mind sharing a recipe for Mast P brew with sesame oil, whatever has worked best for you. Please do share.

Go with the classic 2% ba 20%bb. It will hold everything at normal concentration

If you want ask me here and in that way maybe there are people that will have the same question in the future and read the response. Or dm me if you want i'm ok with either variant you want

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

@Ridethelightningbarefoot @Nilatac @WannaBeBIG

Any of you mind sharing a recipe for Mast P brew with sesame oil, whatever has worked best for you. Please do share.

Ive never brewed mast but for short esters this us pretty standard:
100mg/ml
18/1

 

[theotherguy]

Refined is a good way to go. Less particulate. An oven can work. I used refined gso from the grocery store. Correct me if im wrong, brewers, but usp is just filtered oil. You will do this when you filter the whole brew

I honestly don't know if USP grade is better or worse than other stuff by the time it is filtered, but I have heard with MCT and supposed "low quality" oil being used and causing issues. For me personally, I try to buy higher grade stuff because the cost isn't so much higher than I feel like it is a deal breaker.

 

[clearheaded]

also USP will have lower endotoxin level, the soluble stuff is what is of concern, metals endotoxins pesticides herbicides, cancer causing petrochemicals from extractions, BPAs, or semi rancid and cause oxidative stress/inflamatory etc, but yes filtering removes spores does not remove all the solubles. USP has alot of standards that food just doesn't have aswell as stronger adherence to those standards.. remember food is allowed certain amounts of rat shit ;0 and unfortunately alot of the nastiest stuff is oil soluble.

if home brewing, the idea should be to make HIGHER quality than UGL rather than to cut corners to save money for ultra low scale.. as when can get vials for ~30 bucks better off just purchasing than jerry rigging and leave to the professionals unless willing to pay up for PROPER set up and use enough gear it eventually will be worth it... in this day and age far to easy to get decent stuff delivered anywhere. obv back in the day would make more sense as harder to get anabolic.

just remember there is other things you dont want to inject and its not just virus and bacteria... ie do u want ur meth made with drano, camp fuel and pool cleaner in a gatorade plastic bottle or proper purity chemicals?

plenty of places sell usp oils not by 5gallon drum.

as harm reduction forum, only highest standards should be promoted and not "I cut corners for years and no infection"

suppose just have to ask yourself what your goals are.. do u want to make ultra low cost potentially unsafe gear @ 200ml at a time or make high quality stuff but may cost ~ finished oils for because on small scale and proper equipment is expensive or just like the hobby of doing it yourself