How much protien per serving

[patsfan]

I 've heard alot of conflicting reports on this like as low as 30 grams every 2 hours to as much as 80 with the thinking that you only absorb 80% of it anyway.

I normally do 60 every 3 hours from various food sources and whey.

I am trying to avoid the extra protien turning to fat so if anyone has some feedback I sure would appreciate it.

Pats

 

[BigPapaPump]

I was told by a proffesional bodybuilder to take in 50 g every 2.5 hours. This is what I have been doing for the past three weeks and have had no problem with fat. The fat I am getting is from my calorie drinks.

 

[patsfan]

I was told by a proffesional bodybuilder to take in 50 g every 2.5 hours. This is what I have been doing for the past three weeks and have had no problem with fat. The fat I am getting is from my calorie drinks.

Thanks for the reply. Interesting.

 

[Bob Smith]

I was told by a proffesional bodybuilder to take in 50 g every 2.5 hours. This is what I have been doing for the past three weeks and have had no problem with fat. The fat I am getting is from my calorie drinks.

Im curious to know how you can tell what exact food is the one making you fat. Do tell.

 

[Grizzly]

There is no definitive answer as to how much protein you can digest in one sitting. If you're trying to eat 300 grams and you eat 6 times per day, then eat 50 grams per sitting and so on and so forth.

Nothing will be converted to fat, unless you are already eating too many calories.

Did you post this on ASN under a different handle or are there just two guys with the same question on the same day?

 

[patsfan]

There is no definitive answer as to how much protein you can digest in one sitting. If you're trying to eat 300 grams and you eat 6 times per day, then eat 50 grams per sitting and so on and so forth.

Nothing will be converted to fat, unless you are already eating too many calories.

Did you post this on ASN under a different handle or are there just two guys with the same question on the same day?

Never been on asn grizz but I thank you for answering it again. So if I have an 80 gram shake in the am after a heavy compound lift day its not going to fat. If anything I am calorie restrictive. I am a week into a t-3 cycle so I can amp up the cals. Thanks

PS: I am on cycle right now.

 

[gyno_ghost]

This question varies. I have heard and read that no more than 30 g of protein can be properly used and digested. I have also read that 50-60 g is about the tops. If you are doing a hard mass building workout, I would suggest taking more than just a protein shake. Personally, a good carb/protein shake is better. The carbs should be dextrose, maltodextrine or the very least any carb high on the glycemic index. Say 100 g of carbs and about 60 g of protein, will not get you fat and will help with gains and recoop.

Very interesting. After reading this thread, I'm starting to get the feeling that my post-workout drinks aren't cutting it. I'm getting plenty of protein, but my carb intake is probably on the low end. What are good sources of dextrose and maltodextrin? Are there powders you can add to your shakes or should I be buying some sort of meal-replacement/protein powder with a high concentration of these nutrients?

Thanks,

GG

 

[Grizzly]

You can buy maltodextrin and dextrose powders. I've never looked into it, but I would bet they're more expensive than my method since the supp. compaines know that we'll spend a fortune trying to look good.

I eat Runts and Fun Dip after my workouts. They taste good and the sweeteners used are maltodextrin, dextrose and, unfortunately, a small amount of corn syrup. I can't remember what I paid for them, but you can get a buttload at Sam's Club for cheap.

 

[dolfe1]

You can buy maltodextrin and dextrose powders. I've never looked into it, but I would bet they're more expensive than my method since the supp. compaines know that we'll spend a fortune trying to look good.

I eat Runts and Fun Dip after my workouts. They taste good and the sweeteners used are maltodextrin, dextrose and, unfortunately, a small amount of corn syrup. I can't remember what I paid for them, but you can get a buttload at Sam's Club for cheap.

lmao I can just see a bigass 285 pound dude eating his fun dip. Too sweet for me.

 

[Grizzly]

Oh yeah, definitely sweet. When it's the only form of carbs for a week at a time(CKD) the head rushes can be a bit much, but I do what I have to.

 

[gyno_ghost]

You can buy maltodextrin and dextrose powders. I've never looked into it, but I would bet they're more expensive than my method since the supp. compaines know that we'll spend a fortune trying to look good.

I eat Runts and Fun Dip after my workouts. They taste good and the sweeteners used are maltodextrin, dextrose and, unfortunately, a small amount of corn syrup. I can't remember what I paid for them, but you can get a buttload at Sam's Club for cheap.

I did a bit of searching and the prices aren't too bad. This site

http://herbalremedies.com/justcarbs2lb.html

has maltodextrin powder priced at $12.49 for two pounds. One scoop would appear to have close to 30 grams of carbohydrate, so two scoops per post-workout shake would probably do the trick.

I'm going to Sam's Club tomorrow, though, so perhaps I'll try both methods.
(Sam's Club is THE place for oatmeal, peanut butter, and all the other stuff we go thorugh so fast.)

GG

 

[thick]

dude, go to proteinfactory.com 2.49 per poundDextrose
Price: $2.49 lb.


Product Description:
Dextrose is derived from corn starch, (very similar to maltodextrin) and is used in several manufacturing applications for several reasons. It is produced by the enzyme conversion of corn starch and refined by ion-exchange demineralization. Dextrose is a fine white powder, hygroscopic and dissolves in water instantly (disappears).
Bodybuilding and Athletic Supplementation
Dextrose is a high glycemic carbohydrate that should be used for pre or post workout supplementation. The objective in using dextrose is to cause a rapid increase in insulin levels thus shuttling amino acids into the muscle cells. This method of combining carbohydrates and protein before and after workouts has been proven numerous times over and over again in research studies. Taking protein in conjunction with carbohydrates produces greater muscle gains and creates an anabolic effect better than taking protein or carbohydrates alone.

An example formua would be our "Anabolic MRP" or this custom mix.
50% Dextrose
5% Super Bovine
5% Glutamine Peptides
40% CFM whey Isolate

This is a highly anabolic formula for post-workout supplementation

I did a bit of searching and the prices aren't too bad. This site

http://herbalremedies.com/justcarbs2lb.html

has maltodextrin powder priced at $12.49 for two pounds. One scoop would appear to have close to 30 grams of carbohydrate, so two scoops per post-workout shake would probably do the trick.

I'm going to Sam's Club tomorrow, though, so perhaps I'll try both methods.
(Sam's Club is THE place for oatmeal, peanut butter, and all the other stuff we go thorugh so fast.)

GG

 

[thick]

this is what i have from them. Bought it 2 years ago almost and havent used it yet. Going to start today.
Product Description:

Scientific Description
This complex carbohydrate is otherwise known as a glucose polymer. Maltrodextrin has the highest rating on the glycemic index of 100. Texture is a fine white powder possessing a bland taste and excellent dispersion in water or other beverages. Maltodextrin increases the mixability of protein powders when added to them.

Typical Analysis of 100 grams
Base Common Starch
Moisture 5.0 %
Dextrose Equivalent 18.0

Total Carbohydrates - 93.8 gms
Sugars 9.1 gms
Protein 0.1 gms
Calories 368
Sodium 62.3


Carbohydrate Composition
Monosaccharides 4.5 %
Disaccharides 4.5 %
Trisaccharides 4.5 %
Tetrasaccarides & higher 86.5 %


Bodybuilding and Athletic Supplementation Description
Maltodextrin is most commonly found in the once popular "weight gain" formulas and now in "Meal Replacement Powders". Maltodextrin should be used by anyone wishing to increase their muscle mass and strength, without the complications of simple sugars. The most important use for maltodextrin is post-workout. Maltodextrin has the ability to replace glycogen stores quickly and spare amino acid catabolism. Maltodextrin will raise one insulin level, making them more apt to absorb more nutrients. Takes the guess work out of carbohydrate intake after workouts. Also recommended for bodybuilders on low carbohydrate diets to prevent glyconeogenesis, though timing is crucial. Maltodextrin is also used to increase vascularity of the muscle and give one the "pumped" look.

 

[Bob Smith]

This question varies. I have heard and read that no more than 30 g of protein can be properly used and digested. I have also read that 50-60 g is about the tops.

I asked Lyle a similar question regarding protein intake yesterday. Basically what he said is that once you take in around .8g/lb, your body greatly increases its ability to oxidize protein, meaning that more is not better or necessarily effective. So a daily intake of around 1g/lb is a good rough average and dont really need more than that. If you get that in two meals or ten meals I dont think matters much.

 

[cutthroat]

Dextrose powder( corn sugar ) is $2 a bag. very cheap.

You can buy maltodextrin and dextrose powders. I've never looked into it, but I would bet they're more expensive than my method since the supp. compaines know that we'll spend a fortune trying to look good.

I eat Runts and Fun Dip after my workouts. They taste good and the sweeteners used are maltodextrin, dextrose and, unfortunately, a small amount of corn syrup. I can't remember what I paid for them, but you can get a buttload at Sam's Club for cheap.

 

[patsfan]

I asked Lyle a similar question regarding protein intake yesterday. Basically what he said is that once you take in around .8g/lb, your body greatly increases its ability to oxidize protein, meaning that more is not better or necessarily effective. So a daily intake of around 1g/lb is a good rough average and dont really need more than that. If you get that in two meals or ten meals I dont think matters much.

Interesting. I really appreciate all the feedback on this thread as I have heard so many conflicting opinions in the past but Lyles opinion is good enough for me.

So Bob I'm 5.11 230 and I really dont need more that 230 grams a day because I'm over 300 right now and its a pain to break that up into 6 meals.

Bump for more info though.

PS: I was looking for any reason to eat candy, thanks Grizz.

Pats

 

[Bob Smith]

200-250 would be fine.

IIRC, Peter Lemon - one of the world's foremost researchers on protein and athletes - said that about .8-.9g/lb is the most that has been shown necessary for weightlifting athletes.

 

[Ramstein II]

poor man's glucose

another great post-work out carb source is highly processed unsweetened breakfast cereal, such as rice crispies or unsweet cheerios. I like the cheerios. They're so processed that they turn to glucose in about .2 seconds in your mouth. A poor man's whey is fat free or low fat ricotta cheese, but whey is pretty cheap nowadays anyway.

 

[Desibaba]

I have also noticed that you can eat a shitload of protein and it wont made u fatter but somewhat excess carbs and fat do.Why is that? I thought calories are calories period but that doesnt explain why if i eat way more protein but somewhat less carbs and fat i start getting leaner even if my daily caloric intake is way more than when i was eating more carbs n fats.

 

[Grizzly]

~40% of protein calories are used in the digestion process as compared with a much lesser percentage being used when digesting carbs/fat. I don't remember the exact percentage of those two, but, for arguments sake, let's say it's 20%.

So, if you eat 5000 calories of protein, you net 3000 calories. If you eat 5000 cals of fat/carbs you net 4000 calories.

There's you answer.