I don’t think I respond well to test

[Nate4297]

Got blood pulled because I’m feeling like shit on Trt. Bloods below are 200mg a week of colonials test Cyp. I have to get my estrogen under control obviously but I’m starting to wonder if I don’t respond well to test because from what I’ve gathered I should be at least 900+ Total testosterone on this.

I also want to add last time I got bloods pulled I was doing 500mg of standfords test E and came back around 1200 total test.

I wish I had more bloodwork to compare to but I’ve came back low from two solid meso sources (RIP colonial) so I’d like to think the gear wasn’t bunk. Any ideas here guys any help would be appreciated!

 

[acetate jake]

Wow. I use colonials stuff and great values.

Give yourself one more blood test.

3 strike rule before your guilty of shit test response.

 

[Country Club Hero]

Try different esters, dosages and type of delivery. Like sustanon subQ EOD.
Or propionate shallow IM etc.

if you truly are not meant for test you can try Ment (trestelone) instead. It was designed for HRT and doesn’t even bother prostate supposedly. Also there are other forums more geared to different forms and ways of TRT.

 

[malfeasance]

Got blood pulled because I’m feeling like shit on Trt. Bloods below are 200mg a week of colonials test Cyp. I have to get my estrogen under control obviously but I’m starting to wonder if I don’t respond well to test because from what I’ve gathered I should be at least 900+ Total testosterone on this.

I also want to add last time I got bloods pulled I was doing 500mg of standfords test E and came back around 1200 total test.

I wish I had more bloodwork to compare to but I’ve came back low from two solid meso sources (RIP colonial) so I’d like to think the gear wasn’t bunk. Any ideas here guys any help would be appreciated!

Show us a picture of your belly so we can assess body fat levels and therefore the relative presence of aromatase in your body.

 

[malfeasance]

You probably have low levels of SHBG (can't see that on your screenshot), so your free test is high. The other side of that coin, rarely discussed here, is that free test is available to be metabolized by aromatase.

Maybe get leaner. Maybe take an aromatase inhibitor to get your e2 down a little.

What else are you taking? How many days post pin did you test? What is your pinning schedule?

 

[malfeasance]

Got blood pulled because I’m feeling like shit on Trt.

I just wanted to make sure this part is not missed.

With your total T level and free test level, "feeling like shit" is not a result of your testosterone levels.

 

[Nate4297]

Try different esters, dosages and type of delivery. Like sustanon subQ EOD.
Or propionate shallow IM etc.

if you truly are not meant for test you can try Ment (trestelone) instead. It was designed for HRT and doesn’t even bother prostate supposedly. Also there are other forums more geared to different forms and ways of TRT.

Can you point me in the right direction to those forums?

 

[Nate4297]

You probably have low levels of SHBG (can't see that on your screenshot), so your free test is high. The other side of that coin, rarely discussed here, is that free test is available to be metabolized by aromatase.

Maybe get leaner. Maybe take an aromatase inhibitor to get your e2 down a little.

What else are you taking? How many days post pin did you test? What is your pinning schedule?

I’m gonna reply to all of your messages on this post lol

I have some tattoos that would show identity on my stomach but I’m 6’1 240 and +-15% bodyfat

That is all I’m taking. One shot a week Sunday night around 9p.m. Bloods were pulled Tuesday morning at 9 a.m. ( not the perfect time I know but that’s what my work schedule allowed for)

I think I’m going to try pinning twice a week (100mg each shot) and take some aromasin to get E2 under control and see where I’m at in 3-4 months

 

[Nate4297]

I’m gonna reply to all of your messages on this post lol

I have some tattoos that would show identity on my stomach but I’m 6’1 240 and +-15% bodyfat

That is all I’m taking. One shot a week Sunday night around 9p.m. Bloods were pulled Tuesday morning at 9 a.m. ( not the perfect time I know but that’s what my work schedule allowed for)

I think I’m going to try pinning twice a week (100mg each shot) and take some aromasin to get E2 under control and see where I’m at in 3-4 months

I also wanted to add my SHBG was 2.5

 

[Chips7]

I’m gonna reply to all of your messages on this post lol

I have some tattoos that would show identity on my stomach but I’m 6’1 240 and +-15% bodyfat

That is all I’m taking. One shot a week Sunday night around 9p.m. Bloods were pulled Tuesday morning at 9 a.m. ( not the perfect time I know but that’s what my work schedule allowed for)

I think I’m going to try pinning twice a week (100mg each shot) and take some aromasin to get E2 under control and see where I’m at in 3-4 months

6'1 240lbs 15%?

I thinks there is an error with your bf number.

Because with this number at 200mg test per week, All is well for you.

 

[Nate4297]

6'1 240lbs 15%?

I thinks there is an error with your bf number.

Because with this number at 200mg test per week, All is well for you.

Yeah maybe 20% tops. So 666 is normal for someone of my stature?

 

[Chips7]

Yeah maybe 20% tops. So 666 is normal for someone of my stature?

No, I was talking about your bf height weight ratio.

666 is not great for 200mg of test per week.

Do one more blood test 24h post your last injection, if is still that low, try 300mg and see what's happens.

"Inject Twice a week" to much fluctuate with only one shhot a week, it can be the problem.

Everyone is different, some need less, some need more.

 

[Highly ecto]

I also wanted to add my SHBG was 2.5

Depending on the lab, your SHBG seems terribly low so you would probably be better pinning smaller amounts daily which should also help control your estrogen a bit.

 

[Nate4297]

Depending on the lab, your SHBG seems terribly low so you would probably be better pinning smaller amounts daily which should also help control your estrogen a bit.

According to this lab “normal” is 1.9-3.7 so maybe a bit low but shouldn’t be that off

 

[Nate4297]

No, I was talking about your bf height weight ratio.

666 is not great for 200mg of test per week.

Do one more blood test 24h post your last injection, if is still that low, try 300mg and see what's happens.

"Inject Twice a week" to much fluctuate with only one shhot a week, it can be the problem.

Everyone is different, some need less, some need more.

Yeah bro I work my fucking ass off I haven’t been on anything other than 200mg of test for over a year. I recently did switch jobs and did become a bit more sedentary so I’ve gained a bit of bodyfat in the last 6 months but nothing crazy just getting used to it lol

 

[Rido]

Should ask colonial for your money back

 

[T&H]

Some off responses in here.

Low SHBG is not abnormal on exogenous test, nor is high free test. Even if higher BF, not going to cause this low test result...this is low.

Based on your past test result of a 2.5x multipler, you are a low responder but I'd source test elsewhere to double check. Since you injected 200 about 48 hours after injection, twice a week won't provide a magical change to a 4x multipler or higher. Not sure what to tell you.

 

[may2021]

Got blood pulled because I’m feeling like shit on Trt. Bloods below are 200mg a week of colonials test Cyp. I have to get my estrogen under control obviously but I’m starting to wonder if I don’t respond well to test because from what I’ve gathered I should be at least 900+ Total testosterone on this.

I also want to add last time I got bloods pulled I was doing 500mg of standfords test E and came back around 1200 total test.

I wish I had more bloodwork to compare to but I’ve came back low from two solid meso sources (RIP colonial) so I’d like to think the gear wasn’t bunk. Any ideas here guys any help would be appreciated!

Try pinning Sus250, 3-4 times a week.
Purple has pharma from Aspen.
You'll feel a lot better and
your #s will go up.
0 pip

 

[malfeasance]

No, I was talking about your bf height weight ratio.

666 is not great for 200mg of test per week.

Do one more blood test 24h post your last injection, if is still that low, try 300mg and see what's happens.

"Inject Twice a week" to much fluctuate with only one shhot a week, it can be the problem.

Everyone is different, some need less, some need more.

What you mean is, if those stats are accurate, he never has a need to do more than 200mg, because he already looks like a bodybuilder and ought to be able to win an amateur contest with some dieting and dropping the test at the end to lose the water, no other steroids needed.

Right?

We are suspecting your self guess at body fat is off if you are 6'1" and 240 pounds with only 15% body fat. I mean, that puts you in shooting range of stepping on stage completely shredded, 5% at 216 pounds. And you have to lose only 24 pounds to get there, easily done in only 12 weeks. Short, painless prep compared to what most of us have to go through.

So, either you are extremely genetically blessed, which is maybe possible, or your stats are off.


I mean, damn, you'll be going to nationals after one cycle at 500mg of testosterone. You won't need much more to turn pro and so on.

Imagine what you stats would be after a 600mg testosterone/ 300mg Deca cycle? I can only imagine.

 

[malfeasance]

Yeah bro I work my fucking ass off I haven’t been on anything other than 200mg of test for over a year. I recently did switch jobs and did become a bit more sedentary so I’ve gained a bit of bodyfat in the last 6 months but nothing crazy just getting used to it lol

If you're gonna inject 200mg a week, then at least clean up your diet.