I got a question everyone, help me...

[chrisremo]

Hey guys, Im 18 weigh about 200 lb and have been going to the gym the last year n half...Im pretty bulky but I dont have that much def..I just started dieting the last couple weeks and I feel great, gym 5 days a week and cardio 3 days a week..I want to get enourmous BUT I want to lose my fat ya no?...My buddy suggested I take Winnys..Now Im not too familiar with that steroid..I do know that it makes you faster, but thats all I know...any help would be good guys..thanx

 

[bronco944]

stay away from juice for right now, you realy dont need it. if you want to get enormous, dont worry about a little fat right now. steroids wont help you cut up, jsut retain muscle while you diet. if your bf isnt over 15% or so dont worry about it, just keep eating and training. i know the short cut sounds great right now, but its going to be a lot harder to reach your goals in teh future if you give into the juice now.

 

[rcphatcat77]

Hey guys, Im 18 weigh about 200 lb and have been going to the gym the last year n half...Im pretty bulky but I dont have that much def..I just started dieting the last couple weeks and I feel great, gym 5 days a week and cardio 3 days a week..I want to get enourmous BUT I want to lose my fat ya no?...My buddy suggested I take Winnys..Now Im not too familiar with that steroid..I do know that it makes you faster, but thats all I know...any help would be good guys..thanx

Ok my an first off do some reading buy a book or two. Winny in no way burns fat it may harden muscle or dehidrate but does not burn fat.

General knowledge most steriods raise estrogen levels wich make you gain fat. Which is where most of the massive gains come from, gainig fat and muscle at he same time.

I have always dreamed of trying a normal test cyce. To retain muscle and also dieting ferosiusly at the same time. The purpose to preserve muscle with the juice and loose fat. Although it is much harder to loose fat w/ steriods than w/ out. i am no pro but at 18 you don't need roids your boddy is naturaly high in testoterone.

Another thought.....sometimes cardio can make all the difference in the world. If your diet is half decent 45 min of cardio 3-5 times a week will spark your appetite and burn more calories.

Hope this helps but remember no matter what once you dabble with roids it steam rolls and almost immediately you don't want to lift with out them.

 

[lowkey]

My .02

Dude i must agree ive heard it all my life as well not to bother using at such a young age but if your seriously going to compete in body building or sports you guys are kidding yourselfs if you dont think most of these kids arent starting roids at the age of 15 and 14. I watched it my whole way through highschool and those are the guys in college now. but if your not taking it seriously and its just a looks thing youd be better off doing it on your own till you got older and actually needed the help, espcecially since youve not been training that long

 

[carved22]

sounds like you have some research to do before considering taking any AAS. First gain the knowledge about AAS, then perfect (as much as possible) your training rountine, diet and sleep. AAS isn't the miracle to making you "enormous' and shredded. Good Luck bro

Carved

 

[chrisremo]

Thanx for the advice guys..I wasnt planning on taking it anywaz cuz I know absolutely NOTHING about it ya no...And I dont want to be a bodybuilder, I just wanna look good...I'm pretty bulky looking right now so I guess Ive been doing sumthin right this year...for supplements right now, Im taking Designer Protein and Ive been on a steady diet havent cheated, and my workout is amazing, I will post it later on tonite cuz i gotta run...thanx for the info tho guys, after I posted this, i figured the whole board was gunna say GET JUICE GET JUICE but I guess its not all about that...well thanx anywaz lada

 

[N4cer]

Winny in no way burns fat it may... dehidrate...

Please explain how it does this.
There's NO proof or experience that winny dries anything out, just that it makes you look harder 'cause it does not aromatize.

If this is true, I'd LOVE to know the mechanism by which it works, so I can comfortably give this advice to others.

Thanks man.

 

[rcphatcat77]

Please explain how it does this.
There's NO proof or experience that winny dries anything out, just that it makes you look harder 'cause it does not aromatize.

If this is true, I'd LOVE to know the mechanism by which it works, so I can comfortably give this advice to others.

Thanks man.

That is why I sated It MAY dehidrate not it deffinetly dehidrates. I was unsure of the reason for the leaner appearance.

 

[N4cer]

Oh, dang it. I see. Thanks anyway then bro. Had me all excited. LOL!

 

[bg65]

not to sound like a jerk, but to say it is harder to lose fat while on AAS is crazy. that is only if you let the estrogen sides get out of hand (estrogen is what causes the fat gains, not testosterone)...among the other wonderful things testosterone does are that it increases metabolic rate and increases fat mobilization while decreasing fat synthesis... so, if the estrogen levels are reduced from normal due to an anti-estrogen and there is a heightened level of androgens in the body from AAS then fat burning is actually increased...the reason many people gain fat while on AAS is that they might be doing a bulking cycle and some estrogen can actually be benificial... and who cares about a little extra fat while bulking?...now if someone is a lard ass and they use AAS they are not going to just lean out, but the AAS can be an incredible catalyst for increasing muscularity and definition in a person who has a solid foundation and a reasonable amount of bodyfat...18 yrs old is too young, you need to build a solid foundation before you use AAS...also the hardening effect of winstrol is due to the fact that it cannot aromatize and has a decent androgenic effect which does the things I stated above

 

[Tank01]

not to sound like a jerk, but to say it is harder to lose fat while on AAS is crazy. that is only if you let the estrogen sides get out of hand (estrogen is what causes the fat gains, not testosterone)...among the other wonderful things testosterone does are that it increases metabolic rate and increases fat mobilization while decreasing fat synthesis... so, if the estrogen levels are reduced from normal due to an anti-estrogen and there is a heightened level of androgens in the body from AAS then fat burning is actually increased...the reason many people gain fat while on AAS is that they might be doing a bulking cycle and some estrogen can actually be benificial... and who cares about a little extra fat while bulking?...now if someone is a lard ass and they use AAS they are not going to just lean out, but the AAS can be an incredible catalyst for increasing muscularity and definition in a person who has a solid foundation and a reasonable amount of bodyfat...18 yrs old is too young, you need to build a solid foundation before you use AAS...also the hardening effect of winstrol is due to the fact that it cannot aromatize and has a decent androgenic effect which does the things I stated above

Actualy winstrol by itself is more anabolic than anything.. yet it does help you keep water off due to its inablity to aromatize. thats why the tren and winny combo is so good in my opinion... tren being mostly androgenic and winny being mostly anabolic... the fit together wonderfully. and neither one aromatizes... though you do have to worry about tren gyno.. but thats another story.. but i do agree with BG65 in that 18 is too young to start a cycle... you need to work on naturaly building up a foundation from which to progress from with aas. later