Igf-1

[Austin316]

I have a few questions about IGF-1

1- The kind I got is already reconstituted, Should I freeze the extra bottles I got while I'm not using them?

2- I'd like to run 60-80mcgs per day. I have 1mg worth, How do I measure out lets say 40mcgs on a slin pin?

3- I was planing on taking it twice per day at like 30-40mcg. Is that a good dose?

4- Is there a max amount of time you should stay on IGF-1? I'm planing on running it for 2-3months

5- I plan to shoot it into the muscles that were trained that day.
Does that sound right or should I just use it on lagging body parts everyday?

6- Does it need to be cut with BW or B-12?

 

[HCgrip]

I have a few questions about IGF-1

1- The kind I got is already reconstituted, Should I freeze the extra bottles I got while I'm not using them?

2- I'd like to run 60-80mcgs per day. I have 1mg worth, How do I measure out lets say 40mcgs on a slin pin?

3- I was planing on taking it twice per day at like 30-40mcg. Is that a good dose?

4- Is there a max amount of time you should stay on IGF-1? I'm planing on running it for 2-3months

5- I plan to shoot it into the muscles that were trained that day.
Does that sound right or should I just use it on lagging body parts everyday?

6- Does it need to be cut with BW or B-12?

I have not used IGF1 but I'll answer your ?'s based on what I've read. Maybe, einstein will chime in, he's a guru on this stuff.

1. Yes.

2. Depends on the mcg/ml. Is the 1mg per 1ml? Reconstituted w/ BA?

3. No. Try 40mcg/day post-workout, bilateral injections, 20mcg each side.

4. Supposedly the benefits subside after ~4 weeks. It's common for people to run it for 25 days at 40mcg/day and then take equal time off.

5. If you do it post-workout, do it in the muscles you trained yes.

6. Can do either. BW might be easier.

Good luck.

HC

 

[Tank01]

I have a few questions about IGF-1

1- The kind I got is already reconstituted, Should I freeze the extra bottles I got while I'm not using them?

Yes

2- I'd like to run 60-80mcgs per day. I have 1mg worth, How do I measure out lets say 40mcgs on a slin pin?

60-80 is quite a bit... you should stick to 40mcg once per day.. post workout. Order some BA from a research chem site and dilute the IGF with 1ml of BA (that is of course if you have the kind which is diluted in 1ml of BA). Then just load the slin pin to the 8iu mark and you have 40mcg.

3- I was planing on taking it twice per day at like 30-40mcg. Is that a good dose?

No, see above... Einstein will be able to elaborate on this, but you should probobly stick to 40-50mcg... 40 is a good amount cuz it alows you to have almost 4 weeks on IGF1, which is about the durration that you should think about doing.

4- Is there a max amount of time you should stay on IGF-1? I'm planing on running it for 2-3months

4 weeks on, 4 weeks off... thats the pattern

5- I plan to shoot it into the muscles that were trained that day.
Does that sound right or should I just use it on lagging body parts everyday?

The first option... inj in muscles just worked.

6- Does it need to be cut with BW or B-12?

I use B12... i dont know about BW... I know that B12 works...


HOpe that helps,

lata,

 

[Tank01]

Im actualy doing the same thing as we speak. though im also using Humalog and Gh too...


so post workout im shooting 40mcg Lr3 Igf-1 and 10iu Humalog (8iu so far, but its going to be 10 tommorow) into the muscles just worked... yes.. IM...oh and its cut with b12 .. for example... I shoot .5cc in my right bicep, and .5cc in my left.

5 min later I have 75g Dexatrose, 10g Creatine, 200mg alpha lipoic acid...

15 min after that I have 80g of Whey protien and some vitamins

1.5 hours later I have another meal consiting of about 60g whey and some brown rice or oatmeal... or ill have some chicken breasts ... If I havent already eaten those up

I try and shoot my insulin igf1 and b12 cocktail at around 2pm (which if I remember correctly is the time of day when cortisol is at its highest... along with 8am.. which is when I shoot my GH)...

I hope that helps


if you are goign to use humalog I highly suggest you monitor your blood sugar levels... invest in a monitor.. you dont need a super fancy one... they get too pricey... but look into a decent one.. it will help you understand how your body functions and how much carbs you need ect...

lata bro,

 

[Austin316]

Tank i have the one that is already reconstituted in b/a.
So does the following still apply?
Do I need to cut it? And if so could I use b/w?

60-80 is quite a bit... you should stick to 40mcg once per day.. post workout. Order some BA from a research chem site and dilute the IGF with 1ml of BA (that is of course if you have the kind which is diluted in 1ml of BA). Then just load the slin pin to the 8iu mark and you have 40mcg.

I'm going to run this with GH [not using Insulin]but I'm not sure which AAS to use along with this stack. I was thinking Anadrol and Sust what do you think?
I wan't to gain 5-8lbs of muscle and lose about 8-10lbs of fat. I'm about 250lbs right now. I was also thingking of coming off and Running IGF-1 and GH with clomid and HCG.

This is my plan
IGF-1 Post workout for 30-40days [should I take IGF-1 on non training days?]
Hgh 2-3 iu in the morning and 2 later in the day
Sust 600mg per week
Anadrol 50mg per day

Sorry for being all over the place,
LMK
Austin 316

 

[Tank01]

Tank i have the one that is already reconstituted in b/a.

how many Ml's of BA is it reconstitued in?

So does the following still apply?
Do I need to cut it? And if so could I use b/w?

Dont put BW in the vial... when you cut it, load the IGF1 in the slin pin and then fill the rest with B12 or... I suppose you could use B/w *(I dont think there is anythign wrong with this... if anyone else knows about this, please state why it is not a good idea or if it is a good idea)*

I'm going to run this with GH [not using Insulin]but I'm not sure which AAS to use along with this stack. I was thinking Anadrol and Sust what do you think?
I wan't to gain 5-8lbs of muscle and lose about 8-10lbs of fat. I'm about 250lbs right now. I was also thingking of coming off and Running IGF-1 and GH with clomid and HCG.

Hmm... well I think you will gain more than just 5-8 pounds... Not sure on the fat loss. If your diet is on key, and you do a minor amount of mild cardio, im sure you could attain those goals. The cycle of stuff im on right now I just started...I started it on the day I started my PCT so yeah, its a good idea to run HCG and clomid... mostly because it will probobly help you retain some of the gains you have made.. or will make. Personaly... I hate sust... So id toss that out.. my only reason is that in order to maintain a stable hormone level in the body you'd need to inject like every other day (because of the prop)... and I fucking hate prop... mostly because out of all the roids it just doesnt get along well with my body... seriously.. Ill inj prop and it wont stop hurting for a week plus. Tren however is very androgenic and since Gh works better with some sort of androgenic compound, id suggest this... tren, test (other than sust), androl is an ok idea too... but i wouldnt go that route just cuz of the huge amount of water retention that it gives and also the estrogenic sides... If sust is all you got then Id go with that.. that is if sust is ok with you .. again... I hate sust... let that be known! . I think you would be fine with just the sust. Save the androl for another cycle.

This is my plan
IGF-1 Post workout for 30-40days [should I take IGF-1 on non training days?]
Hgh 2-3 iu in the morning and 2 later in the day
Sust 600mg per week
Anadrol 50mg per day

I would take IGF1 on non training days... I take HGH 7 days a week as the 5 on 2 off pattern just prolongs the amount of time you will need to see results. For the GH, I would just inj in the AM... around 8 if possible as this is one of the higher points of cortisol levels throughout the day.. the other being 2pm which is when I would try to end your workout so that you can INJ the igf. i already gave my opinion on the AAS in the question above... im not quit sure how you are going to get 600mg of sust per week... i was pretty sure that sust was 250mg/ml of tests.. so why not do 750? or 500?... so far as the androl goes... i think 1 tab per day is fine... if you choose to run it

Sorry for being all over the place,
LMK

Dont worry... somtimes thats how we think...


lata bro, hope that helps

 

[Austin316]

how many Ml's of BA is it reconstitued in?
I assume It's 1ml of BA with 1mg of IGF-1.
If I take a 40mcg injection I should draw out 80iu...Is that right?

I took my first shoot today with B/water... Not a good idea!
The two don't mix at all. So one shoot was water and the other was all IGF-1.
I can order some B/A but in the meantime is ok to not cut it?

Tank will I see good results with 40mcg a day? I thought that was kind of a moderate dosage.

After your advice here is what I plan to do:
HGH 4-5 iu per day
IGF-1 40mcg per day
Test E 600mg a week
*Tren 450mg a week*
*If i didn't use tren what be another good Androgen to run instead. I love Tren but I have been using it a lot.

I started the IGF-1 without the HGH. I'm currently running the IGF-1 with Tren, Masteron and Primo. I will switch to the above program in a week or so.



Thanks for all your help guys!

Austin 316

 

[HCgrip]

how many Ml's of BA is it reconstitued in?
I assume It's 1ml of BA with 1mg of IGF-1.
If I take a 40mcg injection I should draw out 80iu...Is that right?

I took my first shoot today with B/water... Not a good idea!
The two don't mix at all. So one shoot was water and the other was all IGF-1.
I can order some B/A but in the meantime is ok to not cut it?

Tank will I see good results with 40mcg a day? I thought that was kind of a moderate dosage.

After your advice here is what I plan to do:
HGH 4-5 iu per day
IGF-1 40mcg per day
Test E 600mg a week
*Tren 450mg a week*
*If i didn't use tren what be another good Androgen to run instead. I love Tren but I have been using it a lot.

I started the IGF-1 without the HGH. I'm currently running the IGF-1 with Tren, Masteron and Primo. I will switch to the above program in a week or so.



Thanks for all your help guys!

Austin 316

If you didn't use tren, use boldenone or EQ. Something to help your joints.

HC

 

[snyper]

I can order some B/A but in the meantime is ok to not cut it?

YOU MUST CUT IT WITH SOMETHING.....the ba will slowly eat your muscle away. bw is what most people use to cut igf. draw up igf then bw. turn sirynge upside down a few times and it should mix right in the sirynge[do not shake] it might damage the amino chain. i have heard of people using b-12 also.

 

[Tank01]

I assume It's 1ml of BA with 1mg of IGF-1.
If I take a 40mcg injection I should draw out 80iu...Is that right?

If I were you i would add 1ml of BA to the vial.. it will make measureing easier. you dont draw out to the 80iu mark... if you added a ml of BA and did that it would be close to 500mcg... not a good idea lol... just draw to the 8iu mark.. its 1line below the 10mark.. as each mark represents an increment of 2iu's

I took my first shoot today with B/water... Not a good idea!
The two don't mix at all. So one shoot was water and the other was all IGF-1.
I can order some B/A but in the meantime is ok to not cut it?

Im not sure, but I dont think it really matters if one shot was all b/w and one was all igf... its going to get in your blood stream no matter what.. I think the reason why we are injecting into the muscles just worked is because the amount of blood in those muscle groups is much greater than a muscle we didnt just work out. Thats what I gather... I havent read anything saying that spot injections were better for growth on targeted muscle groups... Maybe Einstein will chime in on this. If you dont want to cut it... you dont have to.. just make sure you measure it correctly.

Tank will I see good results with 40mcg a day? I thought that was kind of a moderate dosage.

I am ... shit I started this at 195 (on a good day).. and im currently 200.. its been like 4 days... I know some of this is carb retention, and water, but all i can tell you is that I am leaner, more vascular, i get insaine pumps, I can already see a diff in my arms and chest... they have been "pumped" ever since I trained them... thats a few days ago now. Im loving this shit.


After your advice here is what I plan to do:
HGH 4-5 iu per day
IGF-1 40mcg per day
Test E 600mg a week
*Tren 450mg a week*
*If i didn't use tren what be another good Androgen to run instead. I love Tren but I have been using it a lot.

that sounds great... YOu shold see some good gains off that cycle. Another androgen huh... Masteron?, though honestly you dont really need another since test in itself is probobly androgenic enough to give the Gh what its looking for... whats wrong with tren ? If you did a masteron and test cylce, I think that would yeild good results too... and the masteron would bind up a lot of your SHGB so you would get more of a result out of the test than if you just ran test by itself... I think all really androgenic comounds have a high affinity to SHBG so maybe tren will do the same thing.

I started the IGF-1 without the HGH. I'm currently running the IGF-1 with Tren, Masteron and Primo. I will switch to the above program in a week or so.

as I said, masteron is good stuff, use the primo as a bridge when you come off and do your PCT, You could probobly drop the masteron and do just tren and test... but if you want to do them all.. but save your primo for a bridge.

Thanks for all your help guys!

Not a prob bro,

lata,

 

[snyper]

tank my friend.......no disrespect, it does need to be cut. straight ba is a no-no

 

[MANWHORE]

Man,i forgot i still have a bottle

 

[snyper]

if the IGF comes already in a pure Benzyl Alcohol solution... if you inject that, either SQ or IM you will get tissue necrosis for sure... ie- you need to buffer the BA with Bacteriostatic water or something else

 

[MANWHORE]

if the IGF comes already in a pure Benzyl Alcohol solution... if you inject that, either SQ or IM you will get tissue necrosis for sure... ie- you need to buffer the BA with Bacteriostatic water or something else

Since there's BA in all or most inject aas,there will be damage to tissue? If not,then how do you know what % ba to the % oil will damage tissue. The reason i ask is because i know serious BBers who shoot their IGF in straight BA and i'm surprised they don't know this

 

[Tank01]

if the IGF comes already in a pure Benzyl Alcohol solution... if you inject that, either SQ or IM you will get tissue necrosis for sure... ie- you need to buffer the BA with Bacteriostatic water or something else

I was unaware of this.. Ive heard of people injecting it before with no problem.. I guess this is somthign that they recently discovered?

 

[MANWHORE]

It makes sense that tissue is being damaged by alcohol but wouldn't it repair itself when given time?

 

[Tank01]

tank my friend.......no disrespect, it does need to be cut. straight ba is a no-no

no disrespect taken... I dont know everything yet... lol . ... Im glad you pointed this out.. ive been "buffering" it with b12 myself.

 

[einstein1905]

It doesn't "need" to be cut. The volume injected is such that very little necrosis occurs. You can ( and I suggest you do) cut it with anything. Injecting into the muscles worked takes advantage of IGF receptors being upregulated in the muscles worked (in response to muscle trauma). Injecting into the muscles just worked gives you a higher concentration of IGF-1 in the site where the concentration of IGF receptors is then highest (kinetically favorable to optimize successful number of bindings).

 

[Austin316]

Ok boys thanks for all the help!

Let me get this clear so I don't kill myself.
My IGF-1 is 1mg IGF-1 mixed with 1ml B/A.
If I want 40mcg, I draw the IGF-1 read 8iu. I then pull out another 8 iu for the B/W. Is this right?

Anyone want to post results and cycles of IGF-1 that would be great too!

Austin 316

 

[MANWHORE]

You should have ten lines on your insulin syringe. Ea line will have 100mcg of igf in it. It's very hard to get 40mcg out of that little liquid