"Im new, im new idk what to do" - joe dirt

dasking

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I new here, just starting my AAS journey. Have spent my life on the cusp of secondary hypogonadism. But I had back problems that took priority and dr.s wouldn't do much being so young. fast forward im 34 in 2 weeks. Spent the last 3 years slowly getting worse and worse lost all interest in hobbies quit being active outdoorsman. started gaining weight and losing muscles. Dedicated the last 18 months to the cleanest diet, exercise and workout protocol I could. Testosterone began to improve slowly (low 300s). At my lowest bodyweight since puberty & immediately got a gyno flair up. Dr said come back in a fucking year .

from the gyno this spring until now I have steadily felt worse and worse until I don't want to get out of bed half the time. Stopped making any improvements in the gym 3 months ago and have been just fighting to heal from the last weak ass session to the next. My d quit working around that time. Couldn't get dr to do anything but tell me im depressed.

took it into my own hands ordered my own bloods and gear. lh 2.1, fsh 2.7, Estrogen 11, Test 173. All my biomarkers are fantastic. don't care about fertility I just want to live. Started wirh frontloading 200mg test cyp then 200mg of test E per week split 3 doses, .25 adex eod and 1500hcg per week 3 doses.
Today is 10 days into it I have a soul again.
Plus an appointment with primary Dr. Friday to see what I can make happen with my insurance, and get a referral to a endo or something. Also have a consultation with Defy after.

Once im stable and have atleast a few more months into it, and have no Dr. obligations. I'm going super syan hitting those supraphysiological levels. Blast and crise baby. Safely and securely with lots of bloodwork and continuous education. I have dedicated the last 2 months to being OCD and non stop research. Have researched hormones and gear off and on my whole adult life. At 23 I was going to specialists in big city's trying to get help. But my back and pain medication I was prescribed none would do much. just tell me they can't help me until I don't need pain meds. Then when I'm off them after surgery they still don't care. bottom of the reference range of normal for everything sex hormone is fine right. Man boobs naturally are fine 2. Definitely no underlying hormonal issue there.

Sorry for the long one im just frustrated with my hormones dictating more then half my life. Wasn't sure what else to say here at the gym frustrated typing this shit out.

Im here for education say what you want, give me advice or yell at me for hoping on b4 I let the Dr's "do something".
 
Welcome just know the name of this board is for harm reduction we all know how you feel and you wanna be alive. please be careful get doctor's appproval and be careful. as jumping into certain things like that hcg and ai and hihg test can trash your e2 or prolactin so again get blood work and get some guidance everyone here will try and help you as much as possible just know we wantt to see you live your life and be happy but be safe and be around for a long time.
 
sorry I must not have included the amount of blood work I have had and the purpose of going to the Dr. is to get my insurance to cover more bloodwork. so I can dial my trt in better and get stable before I do anything further. It will likely be atleast 16 weeks before i even think about increasing anything. I have pubertal gyno so it's important I stay atop of keeping estrogen under control.
Next week im switching my proto to 48mg eod and hoping I can drop the adex from there.
I think your assuming I haven't been through the ringer of what my options are and what they would give me at a "trt" clinic or what the numerous endos have told me to deal with this. If I can get my Dr. on board to order my bloods for me then I can get more bloods done for FREE. planning to request a sleep study and get another scan of my brain to make sure i have no tumors. And get the most cost effective solution while still having dr guidance. I'm paying for consultations with hormone clinics if you missed that part aswell maybe. This has been a life long thing I just couldn't get my primary to order my bloods including my sex hormones for the last 2 years. then 3 weeks ago I found out im not losing my insurance after I already paid for my own bloods and gear and consult with a cheaper clinic. I really don't know what more I could do for harm reduction for TRT currently. But yeah eventually I wanna go supraphysiologial or "super sayan" lol. That's not for a really long time tho.
Again open to any advice or criticism. Bring it on the only reason I am hear is to continue to expand my education.
 
also Prolactin was 6.6, I just didn't get free test results some how missed that it wasn't on the panel I paid for
 
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