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Is it possible to homebrew an injectable pre workout formula similar to the products on Amino Asylum?
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RiceNKimchi
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This is another great question.
"I saw a product already in existence, it is possible to bring a like product into existence??"
Quite the philosophical predicament you've got yourself into OP.
"I saw a product already in existence, it is possible to bring a like product into existence??"
Quite the philosophical predicament you've got yourself into OP.
Juicedhead
Member
hahah i love your replies. Those products are all water based. have you used them? I assume you must like that shit? I got pip from all his injectable aminos and it burned like a motherfucker going in. you get that too?
Luka.Halotestin
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I brewed a lot of similar products at my lab. It's not really a rocket science.
One of my pump products has:
L-Arginine HCl 100 mg/ml
L-Ornithine HCl 100 mg/ml
L-Citrulline 100 mg/ml
I also have my fat burner which was supposed to have:
L-Carnitine 400 mg/ml
Choline Chloride 100 mg/ml
ATP 10 mg/ml
Yohimbine HCl 5 mg/ml
Albuterol Sulfate 2 mg/ml
The only problem with it is that yohimbine won't fully dissolve and leaves some floaters but others hold just fine and it is working great. My whoop tracker shows 2-2,5x more calories burned during same workouts.
Some of their formulas are a bit shady. I discussed that with a friend who also runs a PED lab and he says they either falsely declare their concentrations or they use some harsh chemicals to achieve that.
One of my pump products has:
L-Arginine HCl 100 mg/ml
L-Ornithine HCl 100 mg/ml
L-Citrulline 100 mg/ml
I also have my fat burner which was supposed to have:
L-Carnitine 400 mg/ml
Choline Chloride 100 mg/ml
ATP 10 mg/ml
Yohimbine HCl 5 mg/ml
Albuterol Sulfate 2 mg/ml
The only problem with it is that yohimbine won't fully dissolve and leaves some floaters but others hold just fine and it is working great. My whoop tracker shows 2-2,5x more calories burned during same workouts.
Some of their formulas are a bit shady. I discussed that with a friend who also runs a PED lab and he says they either falsely declare their concentrations or they use some harsh chemicals to achieve that.
Luka.Halotestin
Member
Btw, if someone has an idea how to dissolve Yohimbine HCl please let me know. I tried a lot of stuff and nothing really helps much (Ethanol, Peg400, Propylene Glyco, tried messing with pH).
I see this pharmacy has it at 10 mg/ml and I can't even get it to dissolve at 5 mg/ml.
I see this pharmacy has it at 10 mg/ml and I can't even get it to dissolve at 5 mg/ml.
Doesn't the HCL variations burn like hell?
RiceNKimchi
Well-known Member
You high? It's true but no one asked lol?
Luka.Halotestin
Member
HCl is the only variation that can be dissolved. I don't think you can dissolve a yohimbe bark extract into a water solution.
This one didn't burn at all nor the other yohimbine solutions I used in the past.
Apparently. Lol I just reread it and it says L Citrulline. Carry on.
Juicedhead
Member
AA pre workout burns like a bitch
Luka.Halotestin
Member
Which one exactly?
Deskoze38192
Member
I notice AA super shredder has a little bite but nothing more than another Albuterol mix I also use
Following because I would like to brew this in the future when I run out of my stockpile
Good info Luka
Luka.Halotestin
Member
As my friends says - they probably use some harsh chemicals to achieve their high concenctrations and they might cause the burn. My shredder doesn't burn at all but I definitely feel that Albuterol in it (I am pretty sensitive to all Beta-2 agonists and Alfa-2 antagonists), my heart rate goes up considerably, my caloric expendeture goes up too and I can breathe a lot easier (it was super helpful while I was on Tren cause it cuts my lungs in half).
If we could find some recipe for yohimbine/clen/albuterol stuff it would save us a lot of money because all of those ingredients are super cheap in bulk and you could make a Helios formula for a less than $4 per 10 ml bottle literally.
If we could find some recipe for yohimbine/clen/albuterol stuff it would save us a lot of money because all of those ingredients are super cheap in bulk and you could make a Helios formula for a less than $4 per 10 ml bottle literally.
Deskoze38192
Member
I have a question to follow along with what you were saying
So when I brew L-Carnitine at 500 mg/ml. I draw it into a 29g insulin syringe and it is thick like honey. Have gone through many vials like this and it takes a little longer but it’s okay.
I’m about to brew another batch and I will be adding 1 mg/ml B-12 and might up the L-Carnitine to 600 mg/ml
I’ve noticed that Super Shredder is thin like water and draws into the same size insulin syringe same as hgh or any water based peptide would…maybe even a touch faster.
This is the claimed ingredients in Super Shredder for those that don’t know
400 mg/ml L-Carnitine
100 mg/ml MIC blend
50 mg/ml ATP
2 mg/ml Albuterol
1 mg/ml B-12
Im wondering how they get it so thin at a claimed concentration of 553 mg/ml
Would adding BB do this?
Or are they possibly using some other solvent?
Luka.Halotestin
Member
I've talked to a friend of mine who also runs a lab of his own and he said that either they use some pretty harsh solvents or they don't put as much as they claim. My carnitine 500 mg/ml is not really thick tho. It is considerably viscous but not anywhere near honey.
29trt
Well-known Member
Idk what carnitine base you are using but my 550mg/ml carnitine is not thick at all, it easily goes through a 30g needle.
i also buffer it with baking soda, don't know if that makes a diff to the thickness....
i also buffer it with baking soda, don't know if that makes a diff to the thickness....
Deskoze38192
Member
Thank you for that reply
Yeah honey is an exaggeration is guess. I draw it into a 29g insulin syringe. It is slow and almost goopy for lack of a better word
The issue would be going up in concentration to 700 ish total mg/ml
I would like to find a way to thin it if it could be done without harsh solvents
Yeah super shredder draws into a 29g like water.
Anecdotal and non-Jano tested that the label is accurate, but my Pinned Aminos L Carn at 900mg/ml is only slightly thicker than other water based injections I’ve used
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