Is this high estrogen or low? Quest labs results

[Jayjizzle]

Is this high estrogen or low? Usually I get a number . Thanks !

 

[mochul]

It is undetectable so not good at all. What are you using

 

[Jayjizzle]

Damn. Makes sense with how I feel. I’m taking 200mg test 200mg primo weekly split in 2 doses

 

[Tbaz192]

Not sure your experience with primo/gear.
Typically need more test to primo ratio. Definitely just need to adjust dose obviously. And if you’re taking any AI on top of it. Drop it lol.
Tanked estrogen SUCKS!

 

[petefox]

Smashed estradiol, < means less-than..

Lower the primo to 100mg weekly, split both into 3-4 doses or a Monday-Friday dosing (40mg test, 20mg primo daily) and you'll be good.

This is also why I like having test base injectable around, just .5ml daily with your other doses should bring estradiol back up to at least reference.

 

[Eddie.]

Damn. Makes sense with how I feel. I’m taking 200mg test 200mg primo weekly split in 2 doses

Can you describe how you feel? On 275 test and 150 primo my e2 went from 106 (with test only) to 35 within a month and i don't know if it continued dropping. Weird stuff.

 

[marsupial]

Gonna be honest, I aromatize a lot and I’m on second week of test 200 primo 100. Planning to increase one or the other later, but point being i took some AI past week and I also tested E2 and got <15. I don’t think mine is crashed though because I don’t have any crashed E2 symptoms. I am pissing a lot more in general. That said, I stopped aromasin for time being and I’m probably gonna have to sadly wait for at least another week and get another e2 test before increasing the test or primo

I got the standard and ultra sensitive just to be totally sure and because this is my first test+primo cycle, but ultrasensitive is still pending. I think standard, even with its margin of error, can do a good job alongside associated symptoms of conveying “crashed”, “low”, or “high E2”. I reckon I’m probably in “low E2” territory now

I think I kind of like not having high E2. I’m not super gyno prone, but do get moody with high e2 and have some dick issues. No dick issues whatsoever right now.

 

[mae_geri]

Everybody is different and armotize different, I was on 525 Test and 500 Mast. and my E2 went to the roof, to high (close to 100 pg/ml).

You're lucky! You don't need an AI at all, that's good! Elevate the Test or drop the Primo. The question here is where is your free Test. going? SHBG? DHT? I only see test. total what about free test?

If you want to elevate E2 fast you can add some dbol for a couple weeks and check your E2 in two weeks again.

 

[lukiss96]

Extremely low like others said. Perhaps primo doesn't suite you. No reason to use it if it crashes your estrogen.

@mae_geri is right. We are all different. No AAS alone is enough to control my estrogen, I aromatase too much and I'm sensitive to raised e2.

 

[Jayjizzle]

My shbg was on the high end when I started the test/primo 2 months ago. It’s steadily going down. Free test on the high end . I don’t see a DHT test with quest.

Everybody is different and armotize different, I was on 525 Test and 500 Mast. and my E2 went to the roof, to high (close to 100 pg/ml).

You're lucky! You don't need an AI at all, that's good! Elevate the Test or drop the Primo. The question here is where is your free Test. going? SHBG? DHT? I only see test. total what about free test?

If you want to elevate E2 fast you can add some dbol for a couple weeks and check your E2 in two weeks again.

 

[Jayjizzle]

Gonna be honest, I aromatize a lot and I’m on second week of test 200 primo 100. Planning to increase one or the other later, but point being i took some AI past week and I also tested E2 and got <15. I don’t think mine is crashed though because I don’t have any crashed E2 symptoms. I am pissing a lot more in general. That said, I stopped aromasin for time being and I’m probably gonna have to sadly wait for at least another week and get another e2 test before increasing the test or primo

I got the standard and ultra sensitive just to be totally sure and because this is my first test+primo cycle, but ultrasensitive is still pending. I think standard, even with its margin of error, can do a good job alongside associated symptoms of conveying “crashed”, “low”, or “high E2”. I reckon I’m probably in “low E2” territory now

I think I kind of like not having high E2. I’m not super gyno prone, but do get moody with high e2 and have some dick issues. No dick issues whatsoever right now.

What company do you use for bloodwork? It seems like quest doesn’t have many options

 

[Jayjizzle]

Can you describe how you feel? On 275 test and 150 primo my e2 went from 106 (with test only) to 35 within a month and i don't know if it continued dropping. Weird stuff.

I’m having a shitload of heart palpitations. Feeling sluggish and tired . Old joint injuries bothering me . My libido is still high though thankfully

 

[Jayjizzle]

Smashed estradiol, < means less-than..

Lower the primo to 100mg weekly, split both into 3-4 doses or a Monday-Friday dosing (40mg test, 20mg primo daily) and you'll be good.

This is also why I like having test base injectable around, just .5ml daily with your other doses should bring estradiol back up to at least reference.

Thanks bro. Yea I’m going to get some

 

[Eddie.]

I’m having a shitload of heart palpitations. Feeling sluggish and tired . Old joint injuries bothering me . My libido is still high though thankfully

Damn, that's how i feel too. I think i'm gonna bump the test a little more. Libido is okay but i feel tired and brainfogged, like i'm having a jet lag or sleep deprivation. Thought it was from calorie restriction since i'm on diet.. Workouts are going fine though, it's the only time of day i'm not feeling anything negative.

 

[mae_geri]

Extremely low like others said. Perhaps primo doesn't suite you. No reason to use it if it crashes your estrogen.

@mae_geri is right. We are all different. No AAS alone is enough to control my estrogen, I aromatase too much and I'm sensitive to raised e2.

We're unlucky haha.....that's why I always have my AI on hands. Even on 190mg TRT 8 weeks without an AI my E2 was at 90! Since then I know I'm fucked.....

 

[mae_geri]

@Jayjizzle give us update....this is interesting and a good knowledge transfer for all the newbies here....thx mate!

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[marsupial]

What company do you use for bloodwork? It seems like quest doesn’t have many options

LabsMD is one option

 

[Jayjizzle]

Interestingly I added a vitamin D test to my last bloodwork and it came back low. I was just reading up on it and studies show low vitamin d can cause low estrogen in post menopausal woman. I wonder if that could play a roll in men too ? Or make it crash even easier?

 

[mae_geri]

Interestingly I added a vitamin D test to my last bloodwork and it came back low. I was just reading up on it and studies show low vitamin d can cause low estrogen in post menopausal woman. I wonder if that could play a roll in men too ? Or make it crash even easier?

I've low Vit. D as well and have to add some supps. for it. And my E2 is not too low....I think you thinking to deep now.