John Smith Row?

ThePerpetrator

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Can someone point me to a site or explain how this type of row is done?

I have searched the forum and have had no luck.

I am trying to create a new back workout as I am VERY unhappy with how it has progressed with the rest of my body.


Thanks fellas,

Perp
 
Rows: Well, the best way to do them is to start with the bar on the floor every single rep. Your middle back will have slight bend to it. You pull the bar off the floor quickly with the arms, and by a powerful arch of your middle back. You finish by touching the bar to your upper stomach or middle stomach. At no time is there any movement of the hips or knees, no hip extension at all, all that bends is the middle back and the shoulders and elbows.

This is hard to do and you have to have good muscular control to do it, or you'll end up straightening up at the hips along with the arching of the back. But if you can master doing them this way you will get a big back. This works because the lats actually extend (arch) the middle back in addition to other functions, just like with glute-ham extensions compared to leg curlsyou always get a stronger contraction when you move both the origin and insertion of a muscle, flexing it from both ends so to speak.

The bar returns to the floor after each rep. The bent row is actually best done as an explosive movement and the bar is moved fast. I have trained many people who could do this exercise with 350 or more lbs. I myself have done reps with 425, Ed Coan, who also knows how to do them properly, has done reps with over 500lbs without his back ever coming above parallel with the ground. That is stronger than Dorian Yates or Ronnie Coleman, by the way.
 
Depends on how you do your rows right now, I guess. I always did the underhand grip, 70 degree angle rows before the JS rows.
 
ThePerpetrator said:
Thanks Grizzly,

So there is no difference between a standard row and a JS row?

Thanks again,

Perp
Compared to the way that most people do rows, yes, there is a huge difference. Most "rowers" Ive seen are practically standing upright (maybe 20 degrees from upright) while rowing. Thats not a row, thats a shrug. JS rows are more difficult. As Grizzly said, it takes a while to really get the hang of the movement. Once you do, youll experience some awesome growth in your back.

BTW, do a search for posts by JohnSmith182. Im pretty sure he has some pictures of how to do his style of row.
 
Thank you SO VERY MUCH!

I was only doing them at about 45 degrees.

I will try this today as it is back day.


Thank you again BROs!

Perp
 
The difference between parallel and 45 degrees is quite large, so be sure to drop the weight when you first try them out. Be sure to bring touch the floor after every rep and then explode up.
 
I think rows are a lot less dull that most excersizes. I can feel them working so many parts of my back and arms. This excersize is a must for a muscular back. Keeping your back positioned correctly with all that weight really builds up your lower back, then the row itself takes care of the rest. I like to bring it to my lower chest/upper stomache quickly and feel my lats pinch almost as if I were doing a cable row.
 
JS rows really hit your lats more than anything, but also stress your traps and lower back quite a bit.
 
I just Bumped up the pictures to the JS rows. I have been doing them correctly and i have really noticed my lats grow from these rows.

Excellent exercise!!
 
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