Just need an information for this cycle

[Cartelaire]

Hi
Here is my first cure. What do you think ?

Week 1 to 12 : 500mg of test enanthate. 250mg monday. 250mg thursday.

Week 13-14 : nothing

Week 15 to 20 : Nolvadex 20mg ED

And Arimidex on hand if problems with e2 after blood test on week 4.

Blood test before first injection, week 4, before PCT after cycle, and after pct.

Regarding hcg, what do you recommend ? Should I take it for this type of cure? And if so, when ? I have seen many different protocols...

Thanks !

 

[biggestdog]

No need for HCG, if you want to add HCG add it into your PCT but it’s likely unnecessary. Everything else looks good, just remember if you get the itchy nips give it a couple days to settle down, if it doesn’t start taking 20mg nolva on injection days or 10mg EOD etc… you’ll figure out what you need to use for yourself if required by gauging symptom reduction.

 

[pistonpump]

I don't think hcg is needed. This is a sound plan for beginner. Good job and good luck make sure you're eating!

 

[Cartelaire]

No need for HCG, if you want to add HCG add it into your PCT but it’s likely unnecessary. Everything else looks good, just remember if you get the itchy nips give it a couple days to settle down, if it doesn’t start taking 20mg nolva on injection days or 10mg EOD etc… you’ll figure out what you need to use for yourself if required by gauging symptom reduction.

I don't think hcg is needed. This is a sound plan for beginner. Good job and good luck make sure you're eating!

Hello thank you.
In certain guides including those of your forum, it is strongly advised to take hcg to perinize the production of the testicles. Why shouldn't I take it?

Thank you for your answers ! I would also reduce the Novaldex to 10mg in the end.

So I was thinking:

S1 to S12. E-test 500mg per week.
And HCG 250ui EOD (maybe)

S13-14 nothing

S15 to S20. Novaldex 10mg

 

[grey]

In certain guides including those of your forum, it is strongly advised to take hcg to perinize the production of the testicles. Why shouldn't I take it?

Usually it is just the expense vice that a large chunk of folks seem to recover without it. It certainly isn't going to harm anything.

 

[Cartelaire]

Usually it is just the expense vice that a large chunk of folks seem to recover without it. It certainly isn't going to harm anything.

I don't understand.. My english seems not very good, even with the translator..

So you think I don't need hcg in this cure ?

 

[pistonpump]

Hcg will raise your estrogen so u may need the ai during the cycle. Without hcg u will be fine and less chance you'll need an ai.

Nolva 10mg is too little won't do shit for your pct

 

[Cartelaire]

Hcg will raise your estrogen so u may need the ai during the cycle. Without hcg u will be fine and less chance you'll need an ai.

Nolva 10mg is too little won't do shit for your pct

Ok thanks. So for you what ? 20mg ? For six weeks ?

 

[Aminoez]

If this is your first cycle, and you plan PCT, IMO save your money, you won’t even notice it few weeks after PCT.

If you are not going to do at least 5-6 cycles blast and cruise gaining 2-3 kg of lean muscles and cruise to keep them you won’t definitely feel any difference.

My first 4 cycles B&C if you see my pics you won’t even notice i was doing steroids.

Also no need for HCG

 

[Mrgiuoco]

I recon you should do clomid aswell with nolvadex bro for 4-6 weeks. You don’t really need hcg but if you already have it then use 1000iu once a week for the last 4 weeks of cycle and not use it during pct because it does swell your balls back up but it suppresses testosterone. Otherwise cycle looks great. Keep your diet well and train hard you’ll see gains

 

[nobrel3]

HCG intra cycle helps to keep fertility, there are a good debate about using intra or post cycle, in my opinion is better to use intra cycle, you can buy some bacteriostatic water with the HCG shot, dilute on 5 ml vial and keep on your fridge 250ui 2x a week or even 500ui one shot a week.

HCG wont reconnect your axis but it mimics the effect so it keeps your balls in working