Legit Primo (methenolone)?

[Gonadman]

So you know how everyone says primo is faked all the time. So I've been looking around and bayer Rimbolan is running about $7-11 per 100 mg. Which really adds up financially when you are running like 700mg/wk for 12 weeks or longer.

So you move on down to finding the best UGL, there a few brands but it seems like hilmaBiocare has some recent test results. Maybe I didn't look hard enough for other UGL brands that have had their primo tested.

Last but not least I figured I could order some raws from purplepanda, double check and have it tested again on my own and then just brew some at home. I have taken college chem and orgo and have basic understanding of the science.

I would really not go down the path of brewing tbh, and wondering if there any other reputable UGL brands for primo right now

Thanks

 

[shackleford]

check the lab testing section of the forum, i think you'll find what youre looking for there.

 

[Skarpyona]

Well you're screwing yourself choosing not to brew yourself. I understand it's not for everyone and will respect your choice, however it is so simple an ape can do it. You have complete control of the process, and the accuracy, potency, sterility, all lie on you. If your primo raws are HPLC tested and pure, you know you're getting what you want.

Meanwhile, you have no clue what kind of conditions, quality, or safety measures are taken by these bathtub brewing, fly by night shills. Some of these dipshits are so inept, you need to explain to them a .22um and .22mm are orders of magnitude off and won't adequately filter a solution.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

So you know how everyone says primo is faked all the time. So I've been looking around and bayer Rimbolan is running about $7-11 per 100 mg. Which really adds up financially when you are running like 700mg/wk for 12 weeks or longer.

So you move on down to finding the best UGL, there a few brands but it seems like hilmaBiocare has some recent test results. Maybe I didn't look hard enough for other UGL brands that have had their primo tested.

Last but not least I figured I could order some raws from purplepanda, double check and have it tested again on my own and then just brew some at home. I have taken college chem and orgo and have basic understanding of the science.

I would really not go down the path of brewing tbh, and wondering if there any other reputable UGL brands for primo right now

Thanks

Home brew. If there’s one piece of advice I could give to NotAsBigFlowingHairBeardGuy it would be to brew your own. It’s easy and it’s pennies on the dollar. Start with Test E. It’s almost as easy as Koolaid except you need to filter it but that only takes time.

 

[Eman]

The fake primo thing is a pretty antiquated statement these days... I honestly can't remember the last time I saw fake primo, or even underdosed primo for that matter. Not that I haven't seen it, it's just not that common... If you go by what you read, you'd think it was a unicorn. It isn't.

The cheapest route, by far, is to brew yourself. Even then it'll still be the most expensive batch you'll brew... But it's pennies on the dollar compared to buying finished oils.

 

[Gonadman]

Thanks guys. Appreciate the input. Yeah financially home brew is best and yeah you can control the environment, sterility etc.

I guess I have some reading to do lol

 

[shackleford]

fyi @SkankHunt has tested a bunch of primo lately i believe. his stuff is in the testing forum but you can search for posts by user to make it easier to find

 

[Skarpyona]

It really is not difficult!

For someone who wants to ball on a budget:

100ml borosilicate beaker 10$
Hot plate(optional) 20$
10 pack of PVDF/PTFE sterile syringe filters 25$
Stir rod 5$
Pre sterilized vials 1.50$ per unit
Several 3,10,60ml syringes 20$
Caulking gun 5$
Mg scale acurate to .01 preferably 25$
You're in business for 90/110$

You will need
benzyl benzoate. This is the solvent for your powders
Benzyl alcohol. This will maintain sterility of your solution
Carrier oil of choice. I recommend GSO as it's well tolerated and carried by every grocery store worth their salt

For this example, I'll use my own recipe of primo that I err on the safe side to be certain it remains in solution. There's plenty of recipes out there and you're free to experiment with concentrations

200mg/ml
100ml
20g of primo. 1g displaces .952ml
20% BB so 20ml
2% BA so 2ml
Remaining volume will be GSO
19.04ml(20g primo) + 2ml + 20ml= 41.04ml
100ml-41.04= 58.96ml of GSO. Round to 59 for simplicity sake

-Measure and dump primo into beaker
-Add your BB
(Some may say you start to mix and heat at this step. You are free to do so if you prefer)
-Add your GSO
-OPTIONAL: heat GENTLY with hot plate. You don't want to cook it, heat simply speeds up the dissolving process. I do not exceed 50degrees celcius
-Mix thoroughly until completely dissolved. This may take time. Be patient
- let cool until beaker is warm to the touch.
- add your BA and mix. I add my BA after it has cooled to prevent it from evaporating. If you do not heat or think it's an unnecessary step, more power to you.
- load your 60ml syringe up with your nectar of the gods.
- add your filter.
- attach 18ga needle to syringe filter
-stab vial with another needle. This will be used to vent your vial.
- load syringe into caulking gun
- GENTLY squeeze on caulking gun. If you press too hard you will rupture the filter. Steady drops you can see is a good pace.
-repeat until done.

Congratulations, you're now a competent Bath tub lab brewer

 

[Gonadman]

It really is not difficult!

For someone who wants to ball on a budget:

100ml borosilicate beaker 10$
Hot plate(optional) 20$
10 pack of PVDF/PTFE sterile syringe filters 25$
Stir rod 5$
Pre sterilized vials 1.50$ per unit
Several 3,10,60ml syringes 20$
Caulking gun 5$
Mg scale acurate to .01 preferably 25$
You're in business for 90/110$

You will need
benzyl benzoate. This is the solvent for your powders
Benzyl alcohol. This will maintain sterility of your solution
Carrier oil of choice. I recommend GSO as it's well tolerated and carried by every grocery store worth their salt

For this example, I'll use my own recipe of primo that I err on the safe side to be certain it remains in solution. There's plenty of recipes out there and you're free to experiment with concentrations

200mg/ml
100ml
20g of primo. 1g displaces .952ml
20% BB so 20ml
2% BA so 2ml
Remaining volume will be GSO
19.04ml(20g primo) + 2ml + 20ml= 41.04ml
100ml-41.04= 58.96ml of GSO. Round to 59 for simplicity sake

-Measure and dump primo into beaker
-Add your BB
(Some may say you start to mix and heat at this step. You are free to do so if you prefer)
-Add your GSO
-OPTIONAL: heat GENTLY with hot plate. You don't want to cook it, heat simply speeds up the dissolving process. I do not exceed 50degrees celcius
-Mix thoroughly until completely dissolved. This may take time. Be patient
- let cool until beaker is warm to the touch.
- add your BA and mix. I add my BA after it has cooled to prevent it from evaporating. If you do not heat or think it's an unnecessary step, more power to you.
- load your 60ml syringe up with your nectar of the gods.
- add your filter.
- attach 18ga needle to syringe filter
-stab vial with another needle. This will be used to vent your vial.
- load syringe into caulking gun
- GENTLY squeeze on caulking gun. If you press too hard you will rupture the filter. Steady drops you can see is a good pace.
-repeat until done.

Congratulations, you're now a competent Bath tub lab brewer

Thanks man! Appreciate the breakdown that seems easy!

 

[Gonadman]

fyi @SkankHunt has tested a bunch of primo lately i believe. his stuff is in the testing forum but you can search for posts by user to make it easier to find

Thanks!

 

[Skarpyona]

Thanks man! Appreciate the breakdown that seems easy!

If you have any hiccups on the way, feel free to PM me. This forum has a profound understanding of homebrewing and I learn something new everyday.

The process however does not vary much. Your recipes do. I know someone is bound to chime in saying I can get away with less BA and BB and it's true! 1% is the minimum recommended and if memory serves, is what some pharma grade uses. I err on the side of caution and use 2% to no ill effect.

You could get away with 18% BB. I'm from the great white north and don't want my gear crashing during the winter months when it gets colder. I don't have any PIP from my recipe so I don't see any reason to change it

Cheers

 

[lifter6973]

Any PIP with 200mg/ml Primo?
For me, I'm just too scared to order raws from anywhere and all my doses of anything I take are low plus I don't know how much longer I will be keeping up this lifestyle.
How hard it it and what is the cost to test purity of raws and make sure the raws are what they are supposed to be?

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Any PIP with 200mg/ml Primo?
For me, I'm just too scared to order raws from anywhere and all my doses of anything I take are low plus I don't know how much longer I will be keeping up this lifestyle.
How hard it it and what is the cost to test purity of raws and make sure the raws are what they are supposed to be?

Contact Jano. He lets you know exactly what you need. Analysis and shipping is right around $200-$250 (depending on how you ship). I think he’s raising his prices a little bit coming up soon.

 

[Skarpyona]

Any PIP with 200mg/ml Primo?
For me, I'm just too scared to order raws from anywhere and all my doses of anything I take are low plus I don't know how much longer I will be keeping up this lifestyle.
How hard it it and what is the cost to test purity of raws and make sure the raws are what they are supposed to be?

@janoshik is the man with the plan for testing. He'll be able to give you pricing, and it's simple as sending it to him and ge gives you a report saying what it contains and the purity %

I have zero pip and been running it for several months now from 100mg on trt to 400mg per blast. It's very convenient versus a lot of Canadian labs who refuse to brew over 100mg/ml and charge 110$ per vial

 

[Norma Jeane Mortenson]

I understand it's not for everyone and will respect your choice, however it is so simple an ape can do it.

Yeah shit I was just going to say this too, you don't need fuckin college chem to brew some raws.