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Tryptamine

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Hey guys,

I started a bulking cycle with 525mg Test E and 420mg Tren E per week a week ago. (I have already reached peak blood levels because i used short esters to kickstart)
Because i always have acne and it gets even worse on cycle i started to use Isotretinoin (Accutane) 10 days ago, dosing 20-30mg/day

During my last bulking cycle i was going for 3350kcal/day and evel lost bf in the process (sub 10 in the end) so i was planning to eat even more.
But i think isotretinoin is killing my appetite, i read this is a potential side effect.
I have extreme difficulties eating more than one portion at a time. Usually (offcycle) i can eat 4k kcal without any problem, now i stuggle to even get to 2,5k.

Any recommendation on how to boost my appetite?
I could reduce isotretinoin but i do not want to becasue it's doing wonders.
Maybe a natural product (that really helps, noting homeopatic).
I'd also be ok with a side-effect friendly prescription medicine.
I have read that there are some synthetic cannabinoides that do not make high but boost appetite.
Also Megastrol might be an option.

Hope someone can help me a bit. Thanks in advance!
 
What are you taking for organ support supplements? Between the accutane and tren, something may be getting taxed hard and that will kill your appetite.

With the accutane maybe try
250mg TUDCA 2x per day
200mg milk thistle 2x per day
600mg NAC 3x per day

How's water intake look? How about electrolytes? What are you taking for a probiotic? How much fiber are you taking in?
 
Tryptamine said:
Hey guys,

I started a bulking cycle with 525mg Test E and 420mg Tren E per week a week ago. (I have already reached peak blood levels because i used short esters to kickstart)
Because i always have acne and it gets even worse on cycle i started to use Isotretinoin (Accutane) 10 days ago, dosing 20-30mg/day

During my last bulking cycle i was going for 3350kcal/day and evel lost bf in the process (sub 10 in the end) so i was planning to eat even more.
But i think isotretinoin is killing my appetite, i read this is a potential side effect.
I have extreme difficulties eating more than one portion at a time. Usually (offcycle) i can eat 4k kcal without any problem, now i stuggle to even get to 2,5k.

Any recommendation on how to boost my appetite?
I could reduce isotretinoin but i do not want to becasue it's doing wonders.
Maybe a natural product (that really helps, noting homeopatic).
I'd also be ok with a side-effect friendly prescription medicine.
I have read that there are some synthetic cannabinoides that do not make high but boost appetite.
Also Megastrol might be an option.

Hope someone can help me a bit. Thanks in advance!
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You have not reached the full anabolic effect in just one week. When your muscles start to expand, then your appetite will increase.

Running excessive dosages may be suppressing your appetite. Try lowering your test to 300 and Tren a notch. Adjust your AIs accordingly. 300mg test/week just need 12.5 arimidex per week.

Night sweats haven't even started yet?
 
Tryptamine said:
Hey guys,

I started a bulking cycle with 525mg Test E and 420mg Tren E per week a week ago. (I have already reached peak blood levels because i used short esters to kickstart)
Because i always have acne and it gets even worse on cycle i started to use Isotretinoin (Accutane) 10 days ago, dosing 20-30mg/day

During my last bulking cycle i was going for 3350kcal/day and evel lost bf in the process (sub 10 in the end) so i was planning to eat even more.
But i think isotretinoin is killing my appetite, i read this is a potential side effect.
I have extreme difficulties eating more than one portion at a time. Usually (offcycle) i can eat 4k kcal without any problem, now i stuggle to even get to 2,5k.

Any recommendation on how to boost my appetite?
I could reduce isotretinoin but i do not want to becasue it's doing wonders.
Maybe a natural product (that really helps, noting homeopatic).
I'd also be ok with a side-effect friendly prescription medicine.
I have read that there are some synthetic cannabinoides that do not make high but boost appetite.
Also Megastrol might be an option.

Hope someone can help me a bit. Thanks in advance!
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Mk677
Ghrp-6
Berberine
 
I am also afraid of hepatoxicity because of the tren/accutane combo, dosing accutane so low therefore.
It scares me a bit that the appetite loss may be casued by that.

Nutrition
  • Liver supplements:
    I already take milk thristle 500mg once ed.
    Just bought NAC
    I am not sure about TUDCA, it's really difficult to get where i live. Would cost about 120$ for the whole cycle, but if it really does wonders i would buy it anyway.
  • Water intake: about 3 liters ed
  • Electrolytes: 1000mg Ca, 1mg Cu, 350mg Mg, 15mg Zn ed (combi supplement) and a pretty good diet
  • Probiotic: None. Should i? I usually never get sick, maybe once in 1,5 years
  • Vitamines: Taking a combi supplement. I am unsure if i should continue to use it, because it contains Vitamine A 800ug, which is similar to Accutane
  • Fiber: I do not track it, i really don't know.
I used a steroid calculator, it estimated my blood levels to reach peak after day 5 but maybe that is not true. Uploaded it here anyway:

Are you really sure about lowering the Test to 300? I thought 500 is about middle field. Last bulk was high Tren low Test (bc. of acne) and the results were not as good as i expected them to be, this is why i wanted to go higher on Test this time.

Night sweats have not yet started but were also rare during the last cycle. Nearly no sides other than acne. No gyno, no ball shrinkage at all.
What surprised me the most about my last cycle are my test levels before i started this cycle.
I had 17,49ng/mol, normal is 2,5-8ng. PCT was months ago, how is that even possible?

I have only 11mg of Arimidex left but lots of Letrozole. How high would you suggest me to dose? Currently at 0.25mg ed.




Goingstronger said:
Mk677
Ghrp-6
Berberine
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Thanks! starting research now.
 
Tryptamine said:
Nutrition
  • Liver supplements:
    I already take milk thristle 500mg once ed.
    Just bought NAC
    I am not sure about TUDCA, it's really difficult to get where i live. Would cost about 120$ for the whole cycle, but if it really does wonders i would buy it anyway.
  • Water intake: about 3 liters ed
  • Electrolytes: 1000mg Ca, 1mg Cu, 350mg Mg, 15mg Zn ed (combi supplement) and a pretty good diet
  • Probiotic: None. Should i? I usually never get sick, maybe once in 1,5 years
  • Vitamines: Taking a combi supplement. I am unsure if i should continue to use it, because it contains Vitamine A 800ug, which is similar to Accutane
  • Fiber: I do not track it, i really don't know.
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If you can get TUDCA, it does wonders but I'm not sure where you're from.

Up your water intake to 5 liters. Your body needs water to filter out toxins.

Can you get pink Himalayan salt? If so add that to your food to help with the hydration

If you're struggling with appetite yes, a probiotic will help your body to better process food
 
Evom1 said:
If you can get TUDCA, it does wonders but I'm not sure where you're from.

Up your water intake to 5 liters. Your body needs water to filter out toxins.

Can you get pink Himalayan salt? If so add that to your food to help with the hydration

If you're struggling with appetite yes, a probiotic will help your body to better process food
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I can indeed get it but it probably takes 2 weeks and costs 120$, have to do more research first
Trying to up water intake and get Himalayan salt.
What kind of probiotic do you suggest?

And yes, weed is nice and a huge appetite booster but makes me unproductive as fuck, can't smoke it during semesters. This is why i asked if there is some non-psychoactive substance with the same appetite characteristics.
 
CAswole said:
^^^lol, true however.
But ghrp6 all day bud. Binge city.
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I am thinking hard about ordering it. Not really expensive but dosing injecing 3 times a day sound pretty disgusting. I guess i could use the same muscle multiple times but it also means taking syringes to whereever i go... Any other option with the same benefits?
Edit: Did some more research and this indeed seems to be the stuff i need.
Also like the fact that it increases GH, has liver protective effects and is good for the skin.
Are 3 doses ed really necessary? And can i use the same muscles?
 
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Ketotifen
GHRP 2 or 6 (bit too sloppy for me)
Mary J
Digestive Aids such as peppermint oil, ginger, probiotics, l-glutamine, sauerkraut....
Plenty of water
 
Tryptamine said:
I am also afraid of hepatoxicity because of the tren/accutane combo, dosing accutane so low therefore.
It scares me a bit that the appetite loss may be casued by that.

Nutrition
  • Liver supplements:
    I already take milk thristle 500mg once ed.
    Just bought NAC
    I am not sure about TUDCA, it's really difficult to get where i live. Would cost about 120$ for the whole cycle, but if it really does wonders i would buy it anyway.
  • Water intake: about 3 liters ed
  • Electrolytes: 1000mg Ca, 1mg Cu, 350mg Mg, 15mg Zn ed (combi supplement) and a pretty good diet
  • Probiotic: None. Should i? I usually never get sick, maybe once in 1,5 years
  • Vitamines: Taking a combi supplement. I am unsure if i should continue to use it, because it contains Vitamine A 800ug, which is similar to Accutane
  • Fiber: I do not track it, i really don't know.
I used a steroid calculator, it estimated my blood levels to reach peak after day 5 but maybe that is not true. Uploaded it here anyway:

Are you really sure about lowering the Test to 300? I thought 500 is about middle field. Last bulk was high Tren low Test (bc. of acne) and the results were not as good as i expected them to be, this is why i wanted to go higher on Test this time.

Night sweats have not yet started but were also rare during the last cycle. Nearly no sides other than acne. No gyno, no ball shrinkage at all.
What surprised me the most about my last cycle are my test levels before i started this cycle.
I had 17,49ng/mol, normal is 2,5-8ng. PCT was months ago, how is that even possible?

I have only 11mg of Arimidex left but lots of Letrozole. How high would you suggest me to dose? Currently at 0.25mg ed.





Thanks! starting research now.
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You just crashed your estrogen.
.25 every day is too much. Letro is the ultimate estrogen killer. I will be surprised if you still have libido. It only takes a little bit of metro do crash your estrogen, so don't matter if you take .5 or.125 you still may crash your estro. With a half life of 48 hours, you should not dose it more than every 3 Days UNLESS YOU WANT TO SHRINK GYNO and deal with the miserable side effects in the process.

Lower your Letro to every 4 days at 500mg test a week.
 
Tryptamine said:
I am thinking hard about ordering it. Not really expensive but dosing injecing 3 times a day sound pretty disgusting. I guess i could use the same muscle multiple times but it also means taking syringes to whereever i go... Any other option with the same benefits?
Edit: Did some more research and this indeed seems to be the stuff i need.
Also like the fact that it increases GH, has liver protective effects and is good for the skin.
Are 3 doses ed really necessary? And can i use the same muscles?
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The injections are subcutaneous with an insulin syringe. The fat of your belly. Takes two seconds and is painless
 
I don't think it's because of the Letro. Should have said "i am going to take 0.25 ed", my first dose was indeed today.
Are you sure about only 0.25mg e4d? sounds a bit low to me, but i guess 0.25ed is defenitely too much (from what i have read now), good thing i started this thread.

Libido is still great but probably because i just got to know the maybe most beautiful girl i have ever seen :)

Okay, injections with an insulin syringe sound pretty ok. Going to order now. Do i really have to keep GHRP cool all the time? Makes it really difficult to carry around then.
 
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