Looking for a little veteran advice on my up coming cycle

[jayb]

I am currently on testc trt(for about 8months) going to bump up my dose and add dbol, looking to start small dont want to start with anything to heavy and get in over my head. But also want to ad something to the TestC, looking to bulk up a little and then start a cutting program this summer.
34yr old 6ft 195lbs 16-18%bf Been working out for about 4 yrs
Cycle
Test C 150mg per week 1-12
Dbol 25 week 1-4 (10mg in am, 15mg pre workout, 10 in pm)
Adex (not sure on dosage needed)
And I was going to start on HCG I have read it is a good idea while on trt to save what little good your testes are still doing and for a little bump in your natural test.

Diet
300g protien 300 carbs 100fats

Working out 4-5 days per week 18-26 sets per workout

Any advice would appreciated.

 

[TriniJuice]

why so low test, you should increase to 500mg ew (thats a basic test cycle)
i would drop the dbol, since your on TRT there's no need for a "kickstart" and you'll just loose what you've gained on dbol once you stop taking it..
If you insist on taking an oral i would recommend T-bol(Turinabol) over D-bol
nice slow, steady, keepable, dry gains.

 

[jayb]

Trini,
I am not opposed to an inject-able, just want to try adding something to the testc. Was a little scared of going that high on the test didnt know if I would build a tolerance or something similar being that I will be on it forever.

 

[tubesox]

use an oral that you can run longer, anavar gains are kept easier than dbol. for future reference post these inquiries under the forum page and once you start your cycle then use this page. look into other alternatives than dbol just my opinion.

 

[tubesox]

Trini,
I am not opposed to an inject-able, just want to try adding something to the testc. Was a little scared of going that high on the test didnt know if I would build a tolerance or something similar being that I will be on it forever.

honestly what would work out pretty well since you are on TRT and want to run a short not so heavy cycle is short esters. Just keep your TRT dose the same and take it the way you've been taking it. Use a little test prop and whatever mg you deem necessary and whatever oral you end up using then you can just drop it all and continue on your regular TRT dosages.

 

[TaoPhD]

use an oral that you can run longer, anavar gains are kept easier than dbol. for future reference post these inquiries under the forum page and once you start your cycle then use this page. look into other alternatives than dbol just my opinion.

I agree with the anavar or turinibol. I think both are fairly mild. They still shut you down but are supposed to be less liver toxic.

 

[jayb]

Damn I didn't know tbol was an option, I had read a couple posts saying that it wasn't for newbies? I have already bought the dbol when I bought my last batch of testc.

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Bump the test to 500.
Run all the Dbol an hour pre-workout. Stable bloods with orals are way overrated.

If you have cash, get some var. 16-18% BF isn't lean, and most people who say 16-18, are really 20%. People always guess their BF low. You are going to need to keep on top of your shit or gyno could become a major issue with the Dbol. Keep Nolva at the ready.

I don't think you will drop the dbol for something else, which would be ideal, so that's the best advice I can give.

 

[jayb]

No I am not going to ask for advice then ignore it, is var or tbol have less gyno issues the dbol? Or would the gyno come from the high number of test?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

No I am not going to ask for advice then ignore it, is var or tbol have less gyno issues the dbol? Or would the gyno come from the high number of test?

Dbol is notorious for gyno and you'll bloat like a motherfucker even with a heavy AI dose..

No worries with anavar but it's tough to find real var that's properly dosed..

I don't have any tbol experience but if I remember correctly it doesn't aromatize so no gyno, someone correct me if I'm wrong here..

You probably spent $50 on the dbol, just keep it in your stash.. I wouldn't run it at such a high bf%..

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Dbol is notorious for gyno and you'll bloat like a motherfucker even with a heavy AI dose..

No worries with anavar but it's tough to find real var that's properly dosed..

I don't have any tbol experience but if I remember correctly it doesn't aromatize so no gyno, someone correct me if I'm wrong here..

You probably spent $50 on the dbol, just keep it in your stash.. I wouldn't run it at such a high bf%..

Tbol was designed to basically be non-aromatizing dbol. It was a favorite of the East German Stasi drug program, especially for women, in the 70s and 80s.

 

[BIGMESC]

Anyone else feel like total shit on D-bol?
Had to give it up after one week, even at 25mg it was no good for me.

 

[SkankHunt]

Pumps on dbol suck. I prefer anadrol.

 

[jayb]

Anybody have a domestic suggestion for Tbol? Had been using legend but I heard they have been screwing some people on other boards and dont want to wait for international anyway. Checked musclefactory but they dont carry it. Seems like almost every source on the underground board is getting trashed for one reason or another. Had the dbol on hand ready to start monday but want to take the suggestions and switch it up.

 

[mojuice87]

Anybody have a domestic suggestion for Tbol? Had been using legend but I heard they have been screwing some people on other boards and dont want to wait for international anyway. Checked musclefactory but they dont carry it. Seems like almost every source on the underground board is getting trashed for one reason or another. Had the dbol on hand ready to start monday but want to take the suggestions and switch it up.

Dbol is my absolute favorite drug! Oral or injectable. I have great gains on it. Especially strength. Get some proviron and start running it week 2. With the dbol. I would definitely bump the test up! And if your dbol is legit and dosed properly, which it probably isn't first two weeks you will not need more than 10mg. I usually gain about 7-10 lbs first two weeks. But I think my body just loves dbol. Lol. Then from weeks 2-4 I up it to 25mg. Depending on the length of the cycle of run adrol weeks 5-9 at 50mg then bump to 100. Weeks 10-12 anavar 20mg if its good shit. Which I cannot find despite ny best effort. Well that's my knowledge of orals. I love orals! Although I haven't ran any orals in 2 years. I just added them into this cycle and I'm loving it!!! But you need proviron all the way through. Gl.

 

[mojuice87]

Anyone else feel like total shit on D-bol?
Had to give it up after one week, even at 25mg it was no good for me.

No I feel like superman and want to throw my weight around.

 

[tubesox]

Anybody have a domestic suggestion for Tbol? Had been using legend but I heard they have been screwing some people on other boards and dont want to wait for international anyway. Checked musclefactory but they dont carry it. Seems like almost every source on the underground board is getting trashed for one reason or another. Had the dbol on hand ready to start monday but want to take the suggestions and switch it up.

tbol still has water retention properties. not that of dbol or anadrol. Var still has it beat. With that bf listen to the guys, var man....var and i know of a good fair priced source.