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Welcome to my overly wordy first ‘cycle log’ here. It’s not anything groundbreaking but maybe it’ll be helpful for anybody thinking of doing the same- both my questionable decisions & results, and possibly any insightful comments that folks might have.
I’m not trying to go ‘on cycle’ here, but I’ve tried all the PEDs I’m interested in before and gained understanding of effects, dosing, sides & management. But never trenbolone. I always regarded it as the poison danger juice only for stage BBs or pro strength athletes, with a risk to reward profile that kept it properly out of reach for mortals, and especially old fat dudes. It’s kind of the final frontier for me of stuff I’m really curious about but hadn’t tried yet.
Yes doing steroids in general is dumb, and tren is one of the harshest. I know. I’m a grownup and take responsibility for my choices.
Well after reading story after story about successful low or no side effects at low or moderate dose use, and how lots of the horror stories are from people starting at 500/week and going up, I got more curious about trying it.
I’m finishing a long cut- 20lbs left to cut for my initial target weight and dexa has me currently at 17%. I’m not trying to bulk, sharpen my look, accelerate fat loss, or stay on long enough to really get serious benefits here. Just titrating up seeing if my body hates it or not, and jumping back off. Planning to actually run a lean bulk/strength cycle once I’m down to 10-12% fat and maintained for a bit, hopefully this summer. Maybe trenA will be somewhere in that stack, maybe not…
I just got fresh bloodwork on my cutting cruise and e2 is hovering in a perfect spot- low 20s- to hopefully not see gyno or those type sides. Feeling great considering I’m still losing 1lb fat/week and lifting heavy. My plan is 4 weeks or at most 6 weeks of daily pins, titrating up until I see sides, or reach a reasonable total limit without sides (40/day is still under 300mg/week and kind of doibt I’ll het that high!) then dropping it with knowledge of whether it’s something that could possibly be useful in the future or if my body fucking hates it. Not sure if the nutrient partitioning effect is worth the systemic stress even at super low dose? Would be nice to get it high enough to see strength begin to be affected, but that might take longer than the planned weeks. Mainly I’m exploring the onset of sides.
I’m monitoring my bp, my cut, my mood, my sleep, and my strength. Don’t know if my look will change since I’m not properly lean, but I do have arm & leg vascularity, and pec veins with a pump. Abs starting to peek. Diet is dialed in- 1950 cals/day with 60g fat 210g protein. Good sleep, 1gal water/day. No drinking, smoking, my hobbies are lifting, diet, PEDs, and sex. Lifting is dialed in, a bro split I guess 5x/week PPLUL with stuff mixed in on opposite days to increase volume for lagging parts. I’m not gonna stay on long enough to expect seeing serious gains (?) but any strength increase will be noted.
6’3” 47yo, 250lbs. 3 years consistent training & diet after a long gap & fucked up skeletal injuries. Large frame, strong legs & core, upper body coming back from injury atrophy. TRT guy. Bloodwork all in range, some is best ever after steady weight loss.
Current basic existing high cruise/cut stack:
300 testC 150 mastP split MWF
80 deca bolus on Tuesdays
6iu GH split AM/PM
4mg reta split Tues/Fri
I’m not planning to ever do high tren solo (test base ofc) in the future, so lower dose in a moderate stack is probably a good testing environment.
So I’m ending week 2 now of ED tren ace. Started at 5mg/day pinned either mixed with my cruise deep IM MTWF or shallow IM (delts) solo.
3 days @5mg/day- very noticable delt pip when pinned solo, 5/8 30g pin so shallow IM, warmed oil. Intense vivid dreams. Nothing else. After 3 days went up to 10mg/day for a week.
7 days @10mg/day- haven’t noticed/remembered dreams. Strength same, mood same, hints of heartburn, zero reflux, took two tums once but wasn’t full on heartburn. Didn’t get any worse. Good sleep. BP same. Maybe a little sweaty but not drenched or anything a couple nights but that happens sometimes anyway- my wife is like a heater if she snuggles up. She knows about the experiment and is also watching to make sure I don’t yell at our kid or fuck the neighbor’s dog. I’m a very even tempered dude, a little touchy on NPP if I go there, never depressed or angry in general.
Skipped 15mg/day went right to 20mg/day. Small amounts are a pain to measure and transfer, this is easier with 200mg/ml tren I have it’s 0.1ml. 3rd pin @20mg was today.
Still no uncomfortable sides yet, also no strength or mood changes. 140mg/week seems like a very respectable dose- gonna stay here for a week at least and see if problems or benefits creep in- expecting saturation to take a bit but also figuring ace will hit hard and leave fast. Started watering down delt shots with 10mg/10ml mast. Less pip, but maybe I’m acclimating to the ace ester too?
So 13 days in and haven’t noticed much and already jumped up to the beginning of what seems like a really respectable dose. Since I am capping the experiment at 4 weeks, or maybe 6 if I never find nasty sides and make it all the way up to 40mg/day, I’m both thinking maybe I titrated up a little fast, but also that if I didn’t get an immediate “fuck no” from my body maybe more time at an intermediate dose is a good thing to be able to see what happens. That way if I find sides I can go back down and see if they go away or if my body is telling me to cut it out in general.
If anybody read this far I hope the info was clearly presented, and I’ll update when I go up to 25/day or if any results are noticable. I’m not sure if I should expect no response, don’t do tren you old fat retard, great idea I did the same thing and xyz happened, or what, but I’m having no problems so far and not real worried about health impact of a little blip of poison in my healthy lifestyle.
I’ll update this as I go.
Welcome to my overly wordy first ‘cycle log’ here. It’s not anything groundbreaking but maybe it’ll be helpful for anybody thinking of doing the same- both my questionable decisions & results, and possibly any insightful comments that folks might have.
I’m not trying to go ‘on cycle’ here, but I’ve tried all the PEDs I’m interested in before and gained understanding of effects, dosing, sides & management. But never trenbolone. I always regarded it as the poison danger juice only for stage BBs or pro strength athletes, with a risk to reward profile that kept it properly out of reach for mortals, and especially old fat dudes. It’s kind of the final frontier for me of stuff I’m really curious about but hadn’t tried yet.
Yes doing steroids in general is dumb, and tren is one of the harshest. I know. I’m a grownup and take responsibility for my choices.
Well after reading story after story about successful low or no side effects at low or moderate dose use, and how lots of the horror stories are from people starting at 500/week and going up, I got more curious about trying it.
I’m finishing a long cut- 20lbs left to cut for my initial target weight and dexa has me currently at 17%. I’m not trying to bulk, sharpen my look, accelerate fat loss, or stay on long enough to really get serious benefits here. Just titrating up seeing if my body hates it or not, and jumping back off. Planning to actually run a lean bulk/strength cycle once I’m down to 10-12% fat and maintained for a bit, hopefully this summer. Maybe trenA will be somewhere in that stack, maybe not…
I just got fresh bloodwork on my cutting cruise and e2 is hovering in a perfect spot- low 20s- to hopefully not see gyno or those type sides. Feeling great considering I’m still losing 1lb fat/week and lifting heavy. My plan is 4 weeks or at most 6 weeks of daily pins, titrating up until I see sides, or reach a reasonable total limit without sides (40/day is still under 300mg/week and kind of doibt I’ll het that high!) then dropping it with knowledge of whether it’s something that could possibly be useful in the future or if my body fucking hates it. Not sure if the nutrient partitioning effect is worth the systemic stress even at super low dose? Would be nice to get it high enough to see strength begin to be affected, but that might take longer than the planned weeks. Mainly I’m exploring the onset of sides.
I’m monitoring my bp, my cut, my mood, my sleep, and my strength. Don’t know if my look will change since I’m not properly lean, but I do have arm & leg vascularity, and pec veins with a pump. Abs starting to peek. Diet is dialed in- 1950 cals/day with 60g fat 210g protein. Good sleep, 1gal water/day. No drinking, smoking, my hobbies are lifting, diet, PEDs, and sex. Lifting is dialed in, a bro split I guess 5x/week PPLUL with stuff mixed in on opposite days to increase volume for lagging parts. I’m not gonna stay on long enough to expect seeing serious gains (?) but any strength increase will be noted.
6’3” 47yo, 250lbs. 3 years consistent training & diet after a long gap & fucked up skeletal injuries. Large frame, strong legs & core, upper body coming back from injury atrophy. TRT guy. Bloodwork all in range, some is best ever after steady weight loss.
Current basic existing high cruise/cut stack:
300 testC 150 mastP split MWF
80 deca bolus on Tuesdays
6iu GH split AM/PM
4mg reta split Tues/Fri
I’m not planning to ever do high tren solo (test base ofc) in the future, so lower dose in a moderate stack is probably a good testing environment.
So I’m ending week 2 now of ED tren ace. Started at 5mg/day pinned either mixed with my cruise deep IM MTWF or shallow IM (delts) solo.
3 days @5mg/day- very noticable delt pip when pinned solo, 5/8 30g pin so shallow IM, warmed oil. Intense vivid dreams. Nothing else. After 3 days went up to 10mg/day for a week.
7 days @10mg/day- haven’t noticed/remembered dreams. Strength same, mood same, hints of heartburn, zero reflux, took two tums once but wasn’t full on heartburn. Didn’t get any worse. Good sleep. BP same. Maybe a little sweaty but not drenched or anything a couple nights but that happens sometimes anyway- my wife is like a heater if she snuggles up. She knows about the experiment and is also watching to make sure I don’t yell at our kid or fuck the neighbor’s dog. I’m a very even tempered dude, a little touchy on NPP if I go there, never depressed or angry in general.
Skipped 15mg/day went right to 20mg/day. Small amounts are a pain to measure and transfer, this is easier with 200mg/ml tren I have it’s 0.1ml. 3rd pin @20mg was today.
Still no uncomfortable sides yet, also no strength or mood changes. 140mg/week seems like a very respectable dose- gonna stay here for a week at least and see if problems or benefits creep in- expecting saturation to take a bit but also figuring ace will hit hard and leave fast. Started watering down delt shots with 10mg/10ml mast. Less pip, but maybe I’m acclimating to the ace ester too?
So 13 days in and haven’t noticed much and already jumped up to the beginning of what seems like a really respectable dose. Since I am capping the experiment at 4 weeks, or maybe 6 if I never find nasty sides and make it all the way up to 40mg/day, I’m both thinking maybe I titrated up a little fast, but also that if I didn’t get an immediate “fuck no” from my body maybe more time at an intermediate dose is a good thing to be able to see what happens. That way if I find sides I can go back down and see if they go away or if my body is telling me to cut it out in general.
If anybody read this far I hope the info was clearly presented, and I’ll update when I go up to 25/day or if any results are noticable. I’m not sure if I should expect no response, don’t do tren you old fat retard, great idea I did the same thing and xyz happened, or what, but I’m having no problems so far and not real worried about health impact of a little blip of poison in my healthy lifestyle.
I’ll update this as I go.
