Lurker turned member

[voltri]

Hello! Just here to introduce myself, and thought I'd throw a question or two out there to get some opinions.

Been into health and fitness for the last 7 years (grew up obese); been into bodybuilding for a little more than 4 years. Started doing natural bodybuilding shows last year, and enjoyed them, but want to move my game up to the next level.

Used to be hardcore about staying natural, but now, after doing research for a few months (on this site and others), I've almost decided for sure to use gear. A few questions:

Right now I'm sitting at ~12% BF @ 186 lbs.; would it be fine to start my first cycle (Test e & Dianabol) at this body fat?

I'm considering using Anavar before my first cycle (solo) to try and accelerate some body fat loss before my first full cycle; thoughts?

I look forward to reading more on these forums and contributing!

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

I always appreciate some one who's willing to be natural instead of relying on drugs for ALL their lifting gains. It's a good start and if you figured the natty thing out you'll explode on gear.

Ya the test and dbol is fine. 12 percent ain't bad at all. I would suggest just test based on personal preference. I don't like dbol. That's just me.

Now you have a good head start you'll see why juicin is great. Welcome to meso!

 

[voltri]

Thanks for the input-- I've heard mixed things about dbol thus far, but have seen it talked a lot about being a good thing to "kickstart" your first cycle.

I definitely feel like I figured out natty lifting; 1RM for Dead / Squat / Bench is 515 / 410 / 295; physique is something I like, but definitely short of what I want. Really looking forward to seeing where both my strength and physique go when I start!

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Thing about dbol is yes it's great to kickstart. But I hated the stomach cramps that made abs or good squats very hard. Some times to where it felt like the stomach lining was ripping. Not pleasant. That combined with the very short lived gains and the potential for liver damage. I say fuck it.

If you want the experience go ahead. I'm not discouraging you. If your test is good 500mg will be perfect. If you got junk your results and expectations will be shattered. So some thing to consider maybe run it higher to counter the possibility of crap gear.

You didn't mention an AI? Getting one right? Especially with dbol

 

[voltri]

Thanks for the info about dbol. I may reconsider starting off with it and save it for an experiment down the road. Especially since I've been liking the idea of keeping my first cycle as simple as possible. Plus, if it could potentially mess with squats-- Fuck that.

As for an AI, Arimidex seems popular from my research. Consistent dosage information has been a little tricky to find. . . Here's what I've been thinking about for my first cycle in terms of test and Arimidex: 500mg test E / week (2 x 250mg) and 0.25mg Arimidex 3 days / week. (I've also seen compelling evidence to include HCG in a first cycle, but am thinking of holding off on that for now.)

I'm waiting to start my cycle until I've committed to my bridge between cycles; I've seen different protocols, and haven't decided on which one looks best for me between: two weeks off and then running Nolvadex exclusively, or doing a taper protocol. Thoughts would be appreciated on that!

 

[gr8whitetrukker]

Can't comment on pct or anything related as I cruise indefinitely.

I also would not dose your AI with just 2cc a week of test. You probably won't need it. Have it on hand in case you do and buy legit pharma grade. It's expensive but priceless. No need to be throwing down expensive adex just cuz some one told you too.

HCG is unnecessary for me and my goals. I have had very little atrophy of the balls.

Just make it simple in my opinion. Test and have adex on stand bye. Add HCG if you have severe testicular atrophy or discomfort.

 

[Boilermech]

Welcome to Meso brother

 

[LifeSTRONG]

Welcome brother and let the gains begin! [emoji123]

 

[HDH]

Welcome bud. Good to have you here.

H

 

[voltri]

Thank you for all of the welcomes-- Here's another specific question: I'm going in for a physical / blood work soon. Should I tell my physician what I'm planning on doing in order to set up the necessary tests?

 

[Genghis K.]

Welcome brother!