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Hi guys, I have this problem, every time i use Drostanolone (usually drostanolone enanthate) my libido crashes. My cycle was 300 mg of Testosterone Enanthate and 400 mg of Drostanolone Enantahte. Now, to prvent someone coming saying "it's because you crashed your E2 too low!", no it's not because of that, from blood test my E2 is 108, super high, but i am sure drostanolone is real and not faked because of:
1 - test on the product of other members.
2 - my free testosterone was very very high, far more than my total testosterone.
3 - i look super shredded and grainy as never before without any sort of puffiness and zero water retention.

So i started to taking Anastrozolo 2 g per week but no improvement in libido so far. By the way i look amazing as never before, i really like how i look.

From blood test prolactin was low so that it's not the problem.

In the past i have run 500 mg of Test E without any AI. I had a stupid moonface and i was puffy as fuck with a ton fo water retention but my libido was great, and my sexual performances legendary.

All of this data lead me to think that the problem is something diffirent. Now, master does not work as an AI, but its anti estrogens properties are similare to tamoxifen, it binds to esteogen receptor preventing estrogens to do that. If masteron raise free testosterone binding on receptors we don't want testosterene to be wasted on, is it possible that binding to estrogens' receptors raises "free estrogens"that are going to mess with my libido? Are "free estrogens" something real? Is it possible that when i was on test alone without any AI and i was puffy estrogens were attached to tissues and didn't mess with my libido?
 
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I was running 500 test e and 400 mast e with 50 adrol. Everything was going good. Job, life, everything. Now I’m cruising at 175 test e with 100 mast e. Job sucks balls, life sucks balls and my libido crashed. Bloodwork was good. But my stress levels are way up there and I can sure tell. I just now started to get shit straightened out and will be doing a run within 2 weeks. Depression kicked my ass too lol. It’s happened before. And I blamed it on bunk gear. But it wasn’t the gear that was bunk. It was me. You live you learn.
 
rugerjitsu said:
I'm no doctor, but I dont believe Mast is the problem. I'm betting there's something else going on...how's your happiness? Got a girlfriend? Job going okay? Are you stressed at all?
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DocGreen said:
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I was running 500 test e and 400 mast e with 50 adrol. Everything was going good. Job, life, everything. Now I’m cruising at 175 test e with 100 mast e. Job sucks balls, life sucks balls and my libido crashed. Bloodwork was good. But my stress levels are way up there and I can sure tell. I just now started to get shit straightened out and will be doing a run within 2 weeks. Depression kicked my ass too lol. It’s happened before. And I blamed it on bunk gear. But it wasn’t the gear that was bunk. It was me. You live you learn.
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Me Mental state is good, this is the period in my life when there are more attracted to me, my sex appeal is hgh as never before. Job is fine and i don't think my libido iusses are caused by any kind of depression.
For examples there were dark times in my life, but on test and tren, or test and proviron my libido was awesome too, and an tren the sides like hearthburn, letargy etc kill me.
 
Tl;dnr but I can say from personal experience, and that of others I know that Mast is not the root of your issue.

Mast is one of my top 3 compounds ever, I just don't partake in its greatness due to its affect on my hairline.
 
rugerjitsu said:
I'm no doctor, but I dont believe Mast is the problem. I'm betting there's something else going on...how's your happiness? Got a girlfriend? Job going okay? Are you stressed at all?
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OP said everytime he uses Mast his libido crashes.

Which implies when he doesn't, his libido is fine.
So I woudn't try and look for reasons outside of PED usage.

What we can investigate is through which pathways can Mast affect libido. One I see is E2 receptor blockage, but the low libido usually happens with people using standalone Mast, not in conjunction with Test.

OP, how do you know your Mast is legit?
 
Mast lowers E2, activity at least. You can get sexual disfunction with low E2 as well as high.

Honestly Mast crashed me last time at 600mg weekly. Killed my joints and had to stop AI for a while (working AI dosage was known and been used for years on this level of test so no AI mismanagement). And this is someone who can tolerate high single digit E2 readings running Aromasin. I was surprised.
 
Goingstronger said:
OP said everytime he uses Mast his libido crashes.

Which implies when he doesn't, his libido is fine.
So I woudn't try and look for reasons outside of PED usage.

What we can investigate is through which pathways can Mast affect libido. One I see is E2 receptor blockage, but the low libido usually happens with people using standalone Mast, not in conjunction with Test.

OP, how do you know your Mast is legit?
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There were test about it as i've seen in the vendor thread in underground section. Furthermore i can't think about a compoun that can give that fucking awesome look with so little side effects (beside libido i had no other side effect). I mean, trenbolone gives me extreme lethargy, hearthburn etc, winny gives joints pain etc. Now if the Mast block estorgen receptors but does not decrease estrogen levels, do those estrogens floating around affects libido like floating around testosterone does? I can't find anything about this on the web. SHBG bind to both testosterone and estrogens, so lower SHBG levels means also that more estrogens are "free" to do stuff.

Monstar said:
Mast lowers E2, activity at least. You can get sexual disfunction with low E2 as well as high.

Honestly Mast crashed me last time at 600mg weekly. Killed my joints and had to stop AI for a while (working AI dosage was known and been used for years on this level of test so no AI mismanagement). And this is someone who can tolerate high single digit E2 readings running Aromasin. I was surprised.
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Mast never gave me joints pain, just a little bit of thinning hair, instead 100 mg proviron a day after some weees gave me bad joints pain (i had problems sleeping on a side becauese shoulders pain), and i also lost some hair with that dosage for that long (i never lost a single hair in my hair before. By the i wasn't looking as good as i look on mast), but then they grew back.

On Mast my cock shrinked and i lost a lot of penis sensitivity, furthermore my glans was dry. These seems to be symptoms of low estrogens, but how is possible to have low estrogens symptoms on estrogens three time higher than the upper acceptable limit?

Now, i stopped the Mast and in a week my libido is slowing returning to its baseline, my cock is returning to its original size, my sensibility is coming back and the glans is softer, smooth and hydrated and my muscles are becoming fuller even if i am losing a little bit of dryness.
 
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My man, your Estradiol is almost 4x the range it should be in. It should be right around 30 for sexual health, and you really only need to take .25mg anastrozole every 3rd day to keep it there while blasting. I know exactly what you're talking about because I didnt get it either a few years ago. I thought "High test and other androgens = high libido". Then the boners went away, even though I was in the best shape ever (buzzkill). Then bloods showed high E2, so I introduced 1mg anastrozole ed (way too much), and that crashed my estrogen. Still no good in the boner dept... so I eased up on the armidex, bloods came back at 32 range E2 and guess what, sex drive came back real strong.

You absolutely need estrogen for many things to function correctly, libido is definitely one of those items. Even low dosage 200mg of test will have your sex drive in full effect if your E2 is where it should be. For me personally, E2 needs to be around 30-35 range for best sex health. Im sure might vary with other members, but I have been on TRT for 15 years and this is what works for me.
 
Headless said:
. SHBG bind to both testosterone and estrogens, so lower SHBG levels means also that more estrogens are "free" to do stuff.
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That’s a fallacy that’s being repeated over and over by bro-scientists on the internet.

SHBG’s function is to carry the hormones into the cells for them to be active.
Unbound hormones aren’t « free » to be active, they are just floating around with no carrier.
 
TestiCult said:
My man, your Estradiol is almost 4x the range it should be in. It should be right around 30 for sexual health, and you really only need to take .25mg anastrozole every 3rd day to keep it there while blasting. I know exactly what you're talking about because I didnt get it either a few years ago. I thought "High test and other androgens = high libido". Then the boners went away, even though I was in the best shape ever (buzzkill). Then bloods showed high E2, so I introduced 1mg anastrozole ed (way too much), and that crashed my estrogen. Still no good in the boner dept... so I eased up on the armidex, bloods came back at 32 range E2 and guess what, sex drive came back real strong.

You absolutely need estrogen for many things to function correctly, libido is definitely one of those items. Even low dosage 200mg of test will have your sex drive in full effect if your E2 is where it should be. For me personally, E2 needs to be around 30-35 range for best sex health. Im sure might vary with other members, but I have been on TRT for 15 years and this is what works for me.
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I agree, but after the bloodtest i started to take anastrozole with no improvements, maybe the dosage wa to high and my estrogen levels crashed, but usually when i libido problems because of high estrogens just a pill of anastrozole give me results after a day, for example on my last cycle of 300 mg/wk of Test E, 300 mg of Deca and 300 mg of Tren E with cabergoline 0.5 mg twice a week my libido after a boost started to diminish and just taking 1 mg of anastrozole gave me super boner the next day.

Goingstronger said:
That’s a fallacy that’s being repeated over and over by bro-scientists on the internet.

SHBG’s function is to carry the hormones into the cells for them to be active.
Unbound hormones aren’t « free » to be active, they are just floating around with no carrier.
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So, is it a good thing to have high SHBG?
 
I dont know what you just said, Sir, but I know Tren and Deca and Caber and Dex, it all fucks with your dick and your head... Just be sure to punch your clown once or twice a day to make sure everything still works down there.
 
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