Military cycle

[Sir Lifts-a-Lot]

Hey guys my best friend is in the Marines and is finally done with his SOI training and is getting stationed in Virgina for 8 months and is going to do a cycle of test. Is there anything he should be careful of or should look out for while doing this.

Anyones opinions would be helpful.

 

[PUMPED]

could you give us a little more information...like..what you mean he should look out for or be careful about?

you mean careful about AAS testing?

careful about gyno?

careful about high blood pressure...?

we need more info to help you...

 

[desert]

Hey guys my best friend is in the Marines and is finally done with his SOI training and is getting stationed in Virgina for 8 months and is going to do a cycle of test. Is there anything he should be careful of or should look out for while doing this.

Anyones opinions would be helpful.

IMO he needs to stay off AAS. He will be doing way too much cardio to pack on any significant muscle. When I was in the Army, some of my gym buds juiced and didn't do much better in gains than me. Besides, I'm sure hes too yound and not even close enough to 200 lbs yet to even think about it. Also, from your question, its obvious that neither you nor he have done your homework. Just my .02

 

[AirBorne]

Also, from your question, its obvious that neither you nor he have done your homework. Just my .02[/QUOTE]


are you implying pump "hasnt done his HW"? that statement confuses me. sounds like your being a jag.....just my $.02.

anyway, if you feel he hasnt done his HW, then tell him not to use any gear yet. get him more educated.

how old is he

what are his stats

etc, etc

dont go telling people they havent done their HW when you arent even providing us with any info to help you.

id say the worst thing he has to worry about is getting busted via a room/barracks search. from what i am told they dont test for AAS unless they have a reason to. if he is new and right out of HS tell him to just work his ass off in the gym with a good training program for a while and tell him to keep quiet about it, not to get anything mailed to him on post, and to keep his gear hidden well, if that is possible.


good for your boy, though! Im goin into the 0300 MOS too. Take care

AirBorne

 

[Turf Toes]

I agree. I did a cycle of test and EQ, put 20 pounds on and failed my PT test run. Before my cycle, I ran A 12 minute 2 mile and after the juice I fell all the way to 16 minutes. My pushups and situps went up drastically though. I ended up doing 92 pushups in 2 minutes. So there is pros and cons but I agree to stay away until all the running testing is done.

IMO he needs to stay off AAS. He will be doing way too much cardio to pack on any significant muscle. When I was in the Army, some of my gym buds juiced and didn't do much better in gains than me. Besides, I'm sure hes too yound and not even close enough to 200 lbs yet to even think about it. Also, from your question, its obvious that neither you nor he have done your homework. Just my .02

 

[desert]

Also, from your question, its obvious that neither you nor he have done your homework. Just my .02

are you implying pump "hasnt done his HW"? that statement confuses me. sounds like your being a jag.....just my $.02.

anyway, if you feel he hasnt done his HW, then tell him not to use any gear yet. get him more educated.

how old is he

what are his stats

etc, etc

dont go telling people they havent done their HW when you arent even providing us with any info to help you.

id say the worst thing he has to worry about is getting busted via a room/barracks search. from what i am told they dont test for AAS unless they have a reason to. if he is new and right out of HS tell him to just work his ass off in the gym with a good training program for a while and tell him to keep quiet about it, not to get anything mailed to him on post, and to keep his gear hidden well, if that is possible.


good for your boy, though! Im goin into the 0300 MOS too. Take care

AirBorne[/QUOTE]

Then you're easily confused Airborne. I was referring to liftsalot.

 

[AirBorne]

are you implying pump "hasnt done his HW"? that statement confuses me. sounds like your being a jag.....just my $.02.

anyway, if you feel he hasnt done his HW, then tell him not to use any gear yet. get him more educated.

how old is he

what are his stats

etc, etc

dont go telling people they havent done their HW when you arent even providing us with any info to help you.

id say the worst thing he has to worry about is getting busted via a room/barracks search. from what i am told they dont test for AAS unless they have a reason to. if he is new and right out of HS tell him to just work his ass off in the gym with a good training program for a while and tell him to keep quiet about it, not to get anything mailed to him on post, and to keep his gear hidden well, if that is possible.


good for your boy, though! Im goin into the 0300 MOS too. Take care

AirBorne

Then you're easily confused Airborne. I was referring to liftsalot.[/QUOTE]



HAHAHA dude I apologize........i am tired....long day at work. for some reason i thought you were the one who started the thread. again, sorry for bein a jerkoff im goin to sleep

AirBorne

 

[Hypertrophiac]

Assuming he's of proper age:

any juice taken should be at a low dose. he doesnt want to gain alot of weight or it will hinder his performance. the military works you so hard you're gonna be overtraining (thats the point) and his natural test count will probably be next to zip during the basic training. he needs to do more of a maintenance dose.

also, i recommend something like low dose deca (200mg/wk) instead of test because deca is great for the joints and there is no such thing as "low impact cardio" in the military. testosterone chemically breaks down your joint tissue and only builds muscle.

 

[desert]

Then you're easily confused Airborne. I was referring to liftsalot.

HAHAHA dude I apologize........i am tired....long day at work. for some reason i thought you were the one who started the thread. again, sorry for bein a jerkoff im goin to sleep

AirBorne[/QUOTE]

No problem bro, and hey, thanks for posting the beheading video...it really opened up alot of eyes as to what kind of cowars they really are. They can have my head when they cut it from my cold, dead, body...HOOOAHHHH!!!!

 

[fulforb]

If he does increase in mass at a quick rate it would be probable cause for drug testing. The military has a zero tolerance policy. If he pops positive he will be discharged and it won't be with a good type of dicharge. Civilian employers understand all the different type of discharge codes and would probably like to see his DD214. It's not worth the risk.

 

[getswoll]

going off what fulforb said, my commander said they don't test for AAS, but if he has probable cause, it is at his discrescion. He defined probable cause as a huge weight shift in a "short" period of time and an increase in agrevated tendencies. As far as taking deca like someone said, BAD idea. Deca stays in your system far too long to risk it. Stay with things with shorter hls such as test and orals. When you are dealing with the possibility of a courts martial and Levenworth, you want to err on the side of caution.

GS

 

[AirBorne]

good points there Swoll. I understand that chemicals such as deca and eq can be traced for a long period of time and that it is a better idea to stick with drugs like test prop and orals. I also understand that test only does not promote collogen synthesis and is therefore hard on the joints over time.

so my question is -

Is there a drug that clears as quickly as test/orals that helps to safegaurd joints against injury, or do you just have to stick with glucosamine and OTC supps? LMK any input

AirBorne

 

[getswoll]

good points there Swoll. I understand that chemicals such as deca and eq can be traced for a long period of time and that it is a better idea to stick with drugs like test prop and orals. I also understand that test only does not promote collogen synthesis and is therefore hard on the joints over time.

so my question is -

Is there a drug that clears as quickly as test/orals that helps to safegaurd joints against injury, or do you just have to stick with glucosamine and OTC supps? LMK any input

AirBorne

I'm not too sure. I've heard different things from different people (it might just come down to how a person's body responds differently). Today someone in the gym told me about some fast acting deca-type injectable, that is supposed to be good for you joints, but I don't know anything about it. I'll try to get some more info tomorrow.

GS

 

[Starkraven]

Today someone in the gym told me about some fast acting deca-type injectable, that is supposed to be good for you joints, but I don't know anything about it. I'll try to get some more info tomorrow.

GS

Most likely he was reffering to Durabolin, which is a fast acting deca.

 

[PUMPED]

The fast acting deca you are talking about sounds like NPP (Nandrolone Phenylpropionate)

if he is just lookin for strength gains i would look into liquid var at 50-80 mgs ed..and he could just put it in a liquid creatine bottle.....he will not have any real mass gains, but he will be hard and strong...it if he did get tested...which i highly doubt he would...its totally cleared his system in 3 weeks...

other option would be tets prop at 150 mgs-200 mgs eod...with l-dex at .5-.75mg..so he does not have any bloat to slow him down or two give him away..put l-dex in a liquid creatine bottle..


other option which i highly recommend is don't do it...because neither have you have done enough research...

I'm not too sure. I've heard different things from different people (it might just come down to how a person's body responds differently). Today someone in the gym told me about some fast acting deca-type injectable, that is supposed to be good for you joints, but I don't know anything about it. I'll try to get some more info tomorrow.

GS

 

[Hypertrophiac]

good thinking. nandrolone phenylprop is a much better choice. deca is not detectable for a long period because of the nandrolone, but because of the decanoate ester.

might also want to try some M-OHN. i'm taking some of that right now, its a methyl form of nandrolone and my joints are feeling better, i'm also holding no water and leaning up. its a really great drug IMO and its legal right now.

 

[Sir Lifts-a-Lot]

Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to this. Been real busy with shit and this took a back seat.

Ok my bud is 180 after SOI and is 21 years old. He has been training for years and is able to put on descent size while doing tremendous amounts of cardio.

I should have been more cleare with what I meant about him being careful. I meant being caught on it/ useing it. Like what to do with needles and what not. Those I think are going to be the hardest for him to keep hidden.

He is going to be doing a cycle of test E@500mg a week for 12 weeks. So he shouldn't notice a huuuge jump in weight but I assume it will be steady increase over that time period. He wanted to do dbol to jump start it but I warned against it due to the quick weight gain and size even though he will be doing cardio like crazy.

 

[AirBorne]

interesting on the NPP.......im gonna look into that more. havent heard much about it.

please tell him to stay away from dbol, abombs, and orals such as these. my first cycle was 500 mg/week of QV test enan, and 40 mg/dbol ed. It slowed my ass down bigtime and i put on 20 lbs in no time b/c it was my first cycle. tell him to stay away from high dosages of anything, and stay away from the orals i stated above. makes you hold lots of water, makes you big too fast, and makes BP go higher......running have me a bad fuckin headache and i was outta breath really fast.


another question......is there a fast acting form of EQ? Has anyone used NPP? Any input on either of these would be great.

AirBorne

 

[getswoll]

The fast acting deca you are talking about sounds like NPP (Nandrolone Phenylpropionate)
QUOTE]

Hey bro, could you direct me to some more information on the NPP, looks quite interesting. Thanks.

GS

 

[NinjaStylistic]

interesting on the NPP.......im gonna look into that more. havent heard much about it.

please tell him to stay away from dbol, abombs, and orals such as these. my first cycle was 500 mg/week of QV test enan, and 40 mg/dbol ed. It slowed my ass down bigtime and i put on 20 lbs in no time b/c it was my first cycle. tell him to stay away from high dosages of anything, and stay away from the orals i stated above. makes you hold lots of water, makes you big too fast, and makes BP go higher......running have me a bad fuckin headache and i was outta breath really fast.


another question......is there a fast acting form of EQ? Has anyone used NPP? Any input on either of these would be great.

AirBorne

Yeah man, Bold Prop. or Ace.