Minimum Dose Experimentation

[Gunrunner]

Don’t flame my ass for this. It’s what I’m trying out and will take any input and give updates as it progresses.

Background:
Used gear 10-20 years ago at various times. I’ve done a few different cycles. I have done: Depot Test 100-200mg a week. Other was Mesican Sust250 shot a week for about two months and finally I did some Deca 50-200 mg a week for a few weeks. The only orals I have done was the real origianl real Anadrol-50 for a cap a day. The Sust and Deca were repeated several times over the years. No PCT, but I did experiment with some tapering and didn’t notice any difference and never had any negative side effects. Gains were real nice back then as I was serious about my lifting but not competitive.

Now at age 50 I have some gear and want to set up a cycle using the minimum dosage required to get some decent gains but not super blast. I don’t care to be that big ass mofo benching four+ plates. My training is steady the past few years, diet is good and training has plateaued.
My goals now are to do two cycles a year. A simple weight gain cycle in the winter and summer cut cycle. Probably 9-10 weeks each with plenty of rest time in between.

Here is the experiment I have with N=1. I will increase the dosage every two weeks until I hit the level that I feel good in my training and getting the desired results. Once I have the total “in system” that I want I will use that for designing my future cycles. I won’t go through the entire amount as shown here but will stop when I feel this is the level I want.

Here is the layout.
Date: Week; Watson; Balkan; Total
Date; Week; Test C; Deca; In System
6-Apr 1 50 50 100.0
13-Apr 2 50 50 155.0
20-Apr 3 100 100 285.3
27-Apr 4 100 100 356.9
4-May 5 150 150 496.3
11-May 6 150 150 573.0
18-May 7 200 200 715.1
25-May 8 200 200 793.3
1-Jun 9 250 250 936.3
8-Jun 10 250 250 1,015.0
15-Jun 11 300 300 1,158.2
22-Jun 12 300 300 1,237.0
29-Jun 13 350 350 1,380.4
6-Jul 14 350 350 1,459.2
13-Jul 15 400 400 1,602.6
20-Jul 16 400 400 1,681.4

I am actually on week 3 and starting to see some gains but not where I want to be yet. Based on my memory of old cycles and how I feel now I am guessing it will be around 300mg total a week or up to 570mg in my system. Based on this my cycle would look like this:

Week: Watson; Balkan; Total
Week; Test C; Deca; In System
1 300 300 600.0
2 150 150 630.0
3 150 150 646.5
4 150 150 655.6
5 150 150 660.6
6 150 150 663.3
7 150 150 664.8
8 150 150 665.7
9 150 150 666.1
Total Mg 1500 1500

 

[MANWHORE]

The Mexican was SOS preloads correct?
that was good shit

 

[Gunrunner]

The Mexican was SOS preloads correct?
that was good shit

Yes mesican sust250 and Deca both preloads. I remember using 250 a week and having great gains. That got me thinking that some of the dosages today are too high or maybe the gear is weeker. I dunno, but that is why i'm trying this.

 

[MANWHORE]

I don't know the SUST with a U, from Mexico...

I only know of Sostanon Pre-Loads, from Mexico

Sustanon was usually European

Plastic see through casing,
thin foil back, holding a 1ml filled
syringe detached, from the 21G pin?

250mg every 5th day gave me incredible size
and I wasn't eating extra protein, but I was
lifting like a power-lifter.

My home-brew was very potent and I
dosed mine correctly... no extra mg/ml, so I say
it's definitely either the powder quality
or sources low dosing gear

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Sostanon Redi-Jects. I had about a 3 year love affair with these babies about 12-15 years ago. So convienent, So potent. She was my mistress. I've probably done 10-12 cycles and it was the base of all but 2 of them.

 

[Gunrunner]

Yes, you are both correct. The Sostanon was the bomb. I think they were from South America. I also used some rediject of Deca and they had a huge needle. I think they were 18G

 

[SkankHunt]

18g fuck that lol.

 

[beezil]

Don’t flame my ass for this. It’s what I’m trying out and will take any input and give updates as it progresses.

Background:
Used gear 10-20 years ago at various times. I’ve done a few different cycles. I have done: Depot Test 100-200mg a week. Other was Mesican Sust250 shot a week for about two months and finally I did some Deca 50-200 mg a week for a few weeks. The only orals I have done was the real origianl real Anadrol-50 for a cap a day. The Sust and Deca were repeated several times over the years. No PCT, but I did experiment with some tapering and didn’t notice any difference and never had any negative side effects. Gains were real nice back then as I was serious about my lifting but not competitive.

Now at age 50 I have some gear and want to set up a cycle using the minimum dosage required to get some decent gains but not super blast. I don’t care to be that big ass mofo benching four+ plates. My training is steady the past few years, diet is good and training has plateaued.
My goals now are to do two cycles a year. A simple weight gain cycle in the winter and summer cut cycle. Probably 9-10 weeks each with plenty of rest time in between.

Here is the experiment I have with N=1. I will increase the dosage every two weeks until I hit the level that I feel good in my training and getting the desired results. Once I have the total “in system” that I want I will use that for designing my future cycles. I won’t go through the entire amount as shown here but will stop when I feel this is the level I want.

Here is the layout.
Date: Week; Watson; Balkan; Total
Date; Week; Test C; Deca; In System
6-Apr 1 50 50 100.0
13-Apr 2 50 50 155.0
20-Apr 3 100 100 285.3
27-Apr 4 100 100 356.9
4-May 5 150 150 496.3
11-May 6 150 150 573.0
18-May 7 200 200 715.1
25-May 8 200 200 793.3
1-Jun 9 250 250 936.3
8-Jun 10 250 250 1,015.0
15-Jun 11 300 300 1,158.2
22-Jun 12 300 300 1,237.0
29-Jun 13 350 350 1,380.4
6-Jul 14 350 350 1,459.2
13-Jul 15 400 400 1,602.6
20-Jul 16 400 400 1,681.4

I am actually on week 3 and starting to see some gains but not where I want to be yet. Based on my memory of old cycles and how I feel now I am guessing it will be around 300mg total a week or up to 570mg in my system. Based on this my cycle would look like this:

Week: Watson; Balkan; Total
Week; Test C; Deca; In System
1 300 300 600.0
2 150 150 630.0
3 150 150 646.5
4 150 150 655.6
5 150 150 660.6
6 150 150 663.3
7 150 150 664.8
8 150 150 665.7
9 150 150 666.1
Total Mg 1500 1500

whats driving your math??

you can't add deca and test to make a total… if you are trying to examine test…

additionally, its hard to read your spread sheet… but… are you accounting for half lives??