Minimum effective dosing approach

[Mayne]

I have long tinkered with adding just a compound to my cruise (250mg test, 3 iu rhgh) like 10 to 20 to 30mg superdrol, 50 to 100mg anavar, mk-677, early tren hex runs at 150mg, trestolone 6mg daily, halotestin 10 to 20mg and so on. At one point I realized that synergistic choices make much more sense and produced exponential return rather than blasting grams to achieve nonlinear gains. Everything is all things considered subjective here is just my experience.

I strongly consider nearly everything pros like Dorian and Milos chat about in regards to gear reduced by orders of magnitude yet my experience with parabolan at only 150mg was amazing. I have since then ran anavar at 25mg with great results, later on increasing to 50mg, reducing to 25mg adding 10mg halotestin and later on increasing that to 20mg comparing results dose by dose with each compound.

I am currently making change to 250mcg methyltrienolone to establish my reaction compared to 10 and 20mg halotestin in regards to strength, muscular composition, mental and lab work to understand my individual response to such chemicals.

One thing I have noticed after many years testing my blood is that my ast and alt show elevation anytime I am training with high intensity regularly, orals or not numbers are nearly a 100 each, which after only a week pausing training return to 25 or around. I have had those numbers on 250mg test only, 100mg anavar, 30mg superdrol and now 25mg anavar and 20mg halotestin. A caveat to people trying to understand their own liver panel and my experience is that training contributes a lot more in some characters than in others apparently.

Anyway on to current protocol gear choices:
160mg testosterone weekly all the next ones are daily (Tri-ester test 400 Pharmaqo)
10mg trestolone acetate (MENT-50 Pharmaqo)
25mg anavar (Catcafe )
20mg halotestin (just now completed running that yesterday) (Pharmasource )
250mcg methyltrienolone (Methyltrienolone-1 Pharmaqo)
6iu rhgh (Meditrope Black top theprovider)

Listing vendor choices to provide transparency and clarity so people can make comparisons reading. Goal cutting my presently 10% to approximately 7% in optimally 3 to 4 weeks as I am on that cycle going on 3rd month yet and orals have gradually ramped up in that period with lab work each month to check values (only things to improve minimal hdl deviation, ldl much higher than normal which is a really low number in my case and a little low on sodium crazy enough and iron).

Main point in creating my thread is to compare reaction to presumably heavy compounds in people with experience and establish dosages that produce maximum gain/side effect ratios.

 

[demon]

I have long tinkered with adding just a compound to my cruise (250mg test, 3 iu rhgh) like 10 to 20 to 30mg superdrol, 50 to 100mg anavar, mk-677, early tren hex runs at 150mg, trestolone 6mg daily, halotestin 10 to 20mg and so on. At one point I realized that synergistic choices make much more sense and produced exponential return rather than blasting grams to achieve nonlinear gains. Everything is all things considered subjective here is just my experience.

I strongly consider nearly everything pros like Dorian and Milos chat about in regards to gear reduced by orders of magnitude yet my experience with parabolan at only 150mg was amazing. I have since then ran anavar at 25mg with great results, later on increasing to 50mg, reducing to 25mg adding 10mg halotestin and later on increasing that to 20mg comparing results dose by dose with each compound.

I am currently making change to 250mcg methyltrienolone to establish my reaction compared to 10 and 20mg halotestin in regards to strength, muscular composition, mental and lab work to understand my individual response to such chemicals.

One thing I have noticed after many years testing my blood is that my ast and alt show elevation anytime I am training with high intensity regularly, orals or not numbers are nearly a 100 each, which after only a week pausing training return to 25 or around. I have had those numbers on 250mg test only, 100mg anavar, 30mg superdrol and now 25mg anavar and 20mg halotestin. A caveat to people trying to understand their own liver panel and my experience is that training contributes a lot more in some characters than in others apparently.

Anyway on to current protocol gear choices:
160mg testosterone weekly all the next ones are daily (Tri-ester test 400 Pharmaqo)
10mg trestolone acetate (MENT-50 Pharmaqo)
25mg anavar (Catcafe )
20mg halotestin (just now completed running that yesterday) (Pharmasource )
250mcg methyltrienolone (Methyltrienolone-1 Pharmaqo)
6iu rhgh (Meditrope Black top theprovider)

Listing vendor choices to provide transparency and clarity so people can make comparisons reading. Goal cutting my presently 10% to approximately 7% in optimally 3 to 4 weeks as I am on that cycle going on 3rd month yet and orals have gradually ramped up in that period with lab work each month to check values (only things to improve minimal hdl deviation, ldl much higher than normal which is a really low number in my case and a little low on sodium crazy enough and iron).

Main point in creating my thread is to compare reaction to presumably heavy compounds in people with experience and establish dosages that produce maximum gain/side effect ratios.

Great cycle log. At my age I'm seeking the same thing, maximum gain with least number of sides. Curious as to why you choose trestolone? It's a compound I'm intrigued with, but people seem to have mixed results. Super interested how the halo and meth tren treat you. I have the blacktops from provider as well, how long have you been taking them?

 

[Mayne]

Great cycle log. At my age I'm seeking the same thing, maximum gain with least number of sides. Curious as to why you choose trestolone? It's a compound I'm intrigued with, but people seem to have mixed results. Super interested how the halo and meth tren treat you. I have the blacktops from provider as well, how long have you been taking them?

I think in general age independent using as little as we can will eventually produce greatest result long term as longevity in the sport certainly impacts performance and composition.

I am honestly amazed at how many yet are not happy with trestolone or rather completely not aware either way it is probably the best compound mg to mg I have ever used in regards to lifts, looks and mental condition. Lab work on it is pretty much the same yet like on just trt only thing is a tiny increase in hematocrit and rhr (which I have naturally higher and take nebivolol while cycling). I am also surprised completely with the dosage recommendations online 25 to 50mg is extremely potent and I have personally only attempted as high as 12mg daily.

Halotestin I have experience with multiple cycles and I think a lot about the sides commentary greatly exaggerate toxicity, rage and all the regular dogmas around that compound. Everything individually changes and goes around the dosage yet my results at 10 to 20mg (only went 30 like a week to push prs in lifting) is awesome in regards to potency in strength gain, complete recomposition in a matter of days and unparalelled laser aggression when comes to gym concentration. Only thing to care about is that early on the cns stimulation can and in my case have caused panic attacks. That said I think all in all the chemical as long as you tolerate well is a great addition while cutting, recomposition and strength training.

Methyltrienolone I am yet to add today as I go to the gym in the evening and plan is to inject around an hour preworkout then I am going to write my commentary day to day and lab work a week to 10 days on to compare values with halotestin.

I have taken all theprovider Meditrope rhgh caps (Mauve, Black, Golden) many years now you search "lab on (Mauve, Black, Golden) top" and you may read my threads.

I may have gotten carried away when typing insulin also pre workout on training days that are usually 6 to 7 each week normally.
3 iu insulin (Humalog Pharmacy)

 

[demon]

I think in general age independent using as little as we can will eventually produce greatest result long term as longevity in the sport certainly impacts performance and composition.

I am honestly amazed at how many yet are not happy with trestolone or rather completely not aware either way it is probably the best compound mg to mg I have ever used in regards to lifts, looks and mental condition. Lab work on it is pretty much the same yet like on just trt only thing is a tiny increase in hematocrit and rhr (which I have naturally higher and take nebivolol while cycling). I am also surprised completely with the dosage recommendations online 25 to 50mg is extremely potent and I have personally only attempted as high as 12mg daily.

Halotestin I have experience with multiple cycles and I think a lot about the sides commentary greatly exaggerate toxicity, rage and all the regular dogmas around that compound. Everything individually changes and goes around the dosage yet my results at 10 to 20mg (only went 30 like a week to push prs in lifting) is awesome in regards to potency in strength gain, complete recomposition in a matter of days and unparalelled laser aggression when comes to gym concentration. Only thing to care about is that early on the cns stimulation can and in my case have caused panic attacks. That said I think all in all the chemical as long as you tolerate well is a great addition while cutting, recomposition and strength training.

Methyltrienolone I am yet to add today as I go to the gym in the evening and plan is to inject around an hour preworkout then I am going to write my commentary day to day and lab work a week to 10 days on to compare values with halotestin.

I have taken all theprovider Meditrope rhgh caps (Mauve, Black, Golden) many years now you search "lab on (Mauve, Black, Golden) top" and you may read my threads.

I may have gotten carried away when typing insulin also pre workout on training days that are usually 6 to 7 each week normally.
3 iu insulin (Humalog Pharmacy)

Thanks for the detailed explanation, I'm definitely intrigued and will be following along.

 

[patriotmuscle1]

Just commenting so I get notified.. good detailed log .. I dig.it.. good luck sir!!

 

[Sector]

In for the log.

Halo and mtren is pretty wild.

 

[Mayne]

Yea now that I have completed day one I have to say chemical is rather interesting, a little more than an hour after injecting 250mcg in my shoulder I noticed my head going hotter (literally), my chest and breathing heavy continuing about 10 minutes. All the heat sensations carrying on through my warm up and mellowing later on in the workout as temperature increased. Halotestin has yet more powerful cns stimulation chances my experience.

I noticed about myself everything in regards to visual changes and sides can happen upon initial dosing like halotestin yet my strength can only pick up greatly a week to 10 days on that said currently keeping my lifting at level I am on while on 20mg halo the days prior to methyltrienolone.

A tiny lethargy though my sleep currently lacking acid reflux and eating disorder craving sugar at night chugging mainly chocolate must have made contribution to my case I assume.

 

[Mayne]

I may compare halotestin and methyltrienolone yet visually changes are completely different halo makes you granite looking hard while methyltrienolone is a little more watery and makes you round and a lot at that pretty much crazy. I think one makes your skin thinner and the other makes your skin tighter can that make yet sense? I think halo is the precontest choice and while mtren cutting stronger your visual appearance is just like post contest loaded with carbs solid and thicker yet hiding commonly seen grainy cleaner detail and polishing.

I think strength comparison is early to make yet though 250mcg is similar currently to 20mg respectively with each chemical already. Now considering my dosing increase probably after day 3 10mcg daily up to 370ish eventually.

I can say it that way halotestin is to steroids likely what Dorian Yates is to bodybuilding and methyltrienolone is what Ronnie Coleman is pretty much cheers going to continue my thread later on anyway.

 

[Mayne]

One rare case where all the hyping is justly placed yet methyltrienolone is like the jump natty on tren pretty much crazy really already. I may check my thread irregularly continuing as the conclusion three days on is that 250mcg is plenty starting choice and while planning to incease gradually clearing the 375 mark later on running that chemical so low is completely game changer. And in regards to sides currently they are more chill than any heavy compound I have known cheers godspeed and onwards.

 

[Mayne]

Yea so again like my experience with halotestin the strength change a week on methyltrienolone yet seriously is unmatched that chemical truly is in it's own league in regards to literally everything amazing.

 

[Mayne]

I have now concluded my cycle main takeaway is that ramping up to 375mcg, even only 125mcg increase caused much lethargy 250mcg is plenty starting choice and going 50mcg higher each week or 125mcg once plateau is hit only. Honestly consider methyltrienolone as the most impressive chemical. Also have to mention chose to add 10mg halotestin 3 days only as I had an open pack with that many in it and the muscular volume and conditioning are unparalelled with that changing my mood to laser sharp again and energy increased. Have to advise caution very much yet when pushing weights the strength endurance is crazy amount.

Apparently hepatoxicity is highly exaggerated as my AST and ALT were lower on 375mcg methyltrienolone yet than 20mg halotestin with each in range with my regular on cycle while training lab work (have an old post here 60 to 80 and 80 to 90 are my normal with liver echogram all in check and healthy). Only way my enzymes are in the normal recommended range is after taking a week or in cases 10 days pausing training.

 

[Juicedhead]

Yeah I have started running much lower doses of my gear staying under a gram when years ago I would push up to 2.5grams. Can honestly say I am just as big now but my waist is freaking tiny with no bloat I can almost vacuum! Methyl tren is amazing compound. I’ve used both oral and injectable and it really is crazy. Currently on 150mg trest deca and that shit is up there it’s probably my number 2 strongest I’ve used methyl tren being number 1.