Mixing 19-nors

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

Curious if anyone runs multiple 19-nors in a cycle. Usually I do 350mg tren for cutting, 350mg trest for bulking, but curious about combining 19 nors. Maybe NPP (joint relief, don't even know what that means tbh, i guess my joints are fine or im used to the pain). Maybe tren because why not. Or is that just silly and just run the 19-nor of choice.

Thanks. I guess you could ask why not combine DHTs too, I just run DHB but I guess my CRP values don't like that too much.

 

[Eddie.]

The reason is why? Do you have any intolerance on Testosterone and you don't use it in higher amount combined with NPP for example? Combining 2 19nor's i guess it's the easiest way for something to go off and slip into gyno or mental issues. Trest by itself shoots e2 skyhigh, tren raises prolactin..combine it with little test and you're gonna need a handfull of other drugs to not get fucked. I think you overcomplicate things without any need for it..

 

[nightprowler7]

Curious if anyone runs multiple 19-nors in a cycle. Usually I do 350mg tren for cutting, 350mg trest for bulking, but curious about combining 19 nors. Maybe NPP (joint relief, don't even know what that means tbh, i guess my joints are fine or im used to the pain). Maybe tren because why not. Or is that just silly and just run the 19-nor of choice.

Thanks. I guess you could ask why not combine DHTs too, I just run DHB but I guess my CRP values don't like that too much.

I can't comment on 2 19nors, but 2 dhts made me feel AWFUL. Mast and primo. Probably the worst I've felt mentally and physically on any steriod combination. Tired, no motivation, depressed, no libido, life just looked bleak.

I know a guy who runs low dose tren and high deca. He's an oddball but he looks good?

 

[Sector]

The reason is why? Do you have any intolerance on Testosterone and you don't use it in higher amount combined with NPP for example? Combining 2 19nor's i guess it's the easiest way for something to go off and slip into gyno or mental issues. Trest by itself shoots e2 skyhigh, tren raises prolactin..combine it with little test and you're gonna need a handfull of other drugs to not get fucked. I think you overcomplicate things without any need for it..

This. Stacking 2 19 nors is just asking for sides and problems

Especially when using heavy aromatizing compounds

 

[patriotmuscle1]

A few years back I ran test tren npp.. it's was about 1.5g total maybe closer to 2.. I added tren at 300mg a wk a about 12 wks in.. it's started off great the the tren hit hard and I felt like shit.. tren just doesn't sit well in me. I'd do much h better woth npp and eq or primo. Oh and it was tren ace if it matters..

 

[jJjburton]

Curious if anyone runs multiple 19-nors in a cycle. Usually I do 350mg tren for cutting, 350mg trest for bulking, but curious about combining 19 nors. Maybe NPP (joint relief, don't even know what that means tbh, i guess my joints are fine or im used to the pain). Maybe tren because why not. Or is that just silly and just run the 19-nor of choice.

Thanks. I guess you could ask why not combine DHTs too, I just run DHB but I guess my CRP values don't like that too much.

Yes tren and deca was amazing

 

[lukiss96]

I have mixed nand with tren. I expected more sides than I got, but I have experimented with both separately previously, so I had enough knowledge on how I react to both. I wasn't very lean, but I was very big and that size looked quite quality. Strength and pumps is what I remember the most. It definitely helped me break through my previous plateau and I believe some permanent changes in muscularity were achieved. Some maturity and strength is retained to this day. It was worth it then, I wouldn't touch it now based on my goals.

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

The reason is why? Do you have any intolerance on Testosterone and you don't use it in higher amount combined with NPP for example? Combining 2 19nor's i guess it's the easiest way for something to go off and slip into gyno or mental issues. Trest by itself shoots e2 skyhigh, tren raises prolactin..combine it with little test and you're gonna need a handfull of other drugs to not get fucked. I think you overcomplicate things without any need for it..

I've never had tren nor trest raise my e2 or prolactin.

 

[Sector]

I've never had tren nor trest raise my e2 or prolactin.

Prolactin can be kept in check If you keep e2 in check. Only had to take caber once over a 12-16 week tren cycle because my estrogen was in check for the most part, the only time I messed up was when I added some TNE and my estrogen skyrocketed and it messed with my prolactin temporarily.

Idk much about trest so I'll just hold off on commenting on that

 

[EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH]

Yeah I usually run a DHT like primo or DHB and just run trt test so my e2 is never off.

 

[Deleted member 59947]

I can't comment on 2 19nors, but 2 dhts made me feel AWFUL. Mast and primo. Probably the worst I've felt mentally and physically on any steriod combination. Tired, no motivation, depressed, no libido, life just looked bleak.

I know a guy who runs low dose tren and high deca. He's an oddball but he looks good?

Can relate.
I once was on a mix of Masteron, Proviron and DHT thinking I would become a pornstar in bed and feel lust all day long.

I couldn't even think about sex or remember what an ass looked like, and when having sex I was wondering what I was even doing with that person in a bed.

Now a mix of MENT and Tren would be permanent lust.

 

[jp4355]

I did Trenbolone and Deca together quite a few years ago.
Along with a Low Dose of Test Cyp.
I was fine and made some good gains while getting some Definition.

I don't recommend using both unless you have quite a few Cycles under your belt and have run both separately in previous Cycles.
So, you know how your body responds, and what to be on the lookout for.
If not, you could pay a price.................. JP

 

[Demondosage]

Bad idea, personally I wouldn’t

 

[Vyvynette]

1+1=3 in that scenario

 

[Jaxino]

I have used 400 Test 200 tren 200 trest and the results was awesome for such a low dose cycle. Mentally I was a sexual maniac for a while then it stopped.

In any case I prefer to run just one 19-nor, two are always difficult to control prolactin and had to use Dostinex.

 

[88general88]

I see alot of, "do what I say, don't do what I do." when it comes down to it, everyone is different. not everybody gets the same effects from taking deca, same with tren. there are soooo many factors that come into play. For people to say ,"you shouldnt do this, because of this,"is Krazy. I will be the first to say that I have run 2 19nors on several occasions. tbh, sustanon, tren and npp happens to be one of my favorite cycles to recomp. I am by no means a master when it comes to this shit, but I have enjoyed the opportunity to experiment with different compounds and it's usually with shorter esters. for example: tren a and npp. if you are going to experiment, just be prepared, do your research, I find it's best to experiment with compounds individually at high and low doses before I decided to add something else to the mix. I was taught, failing to prepare, is preparing to fail.

I guess my response to the OP, what r some of the reasons you WOULD NOT run the 2 19nors. that's way we can tackles those issue head on.

 

[eery]

100-250mg tren and 300-600mg deca has worked well in my experience, coupled with 800-1100 test.

The "not mixing 19nors" is a meme. People combine test derivaives like test and eq or DHTs like mast and primo all the time. I dont see how two 19nors should be any different even though they have the chance for increased prolactin. Experiment and find out how it works for you and keep us updated

 

[bighunanballs]

I've never had tren nor trest raise my e2 or prolactin.

7α-Methylestradiol can't be tested for, so how do you know it didn't "raise your e2"?

 

[Slowww]

I’ve used two before. No problem, was totally fine just didn’t run a huge amount. I don’t get on well with NPP due to one side effect without tren so I prefer them together. Everybody responds differently to compounds and stacks to some degree imo

 

[Methyltst1993]

You can combine Deca and Tren. I had a cycle where he had TST+Deca+Tren. The strength went up nicely and the muscles grew. But steroids are quite toxic to the brain. There were already too many negative effects. Insomnia, depression, constant dissatisfaction and aggression. This is mainly caused by Trenbolon. Anyway, more Deca and less Trenbolone. Be sure not to combine Trenbolone and Trestolone. These are very strong androgens and are not suitable for combination.