modafinil for endurance

[chocolateandjuice]

Hey folks,

So I'm an endurance athlete (who also lifts, ex-bber), and lately, I've been commuting to work by bike, in order to increase my cycling volume while trying to keep the impact on family life as low as possible.

For work, I also sometimes take Modafinil. I have noticed that on days when I take modafinil, I can hammer out my entire commute at functional threshold power relatively comfortably. (My commute is about an hour both ways, sometimes I extend the route to add more mileage).

For those not familiar with FTP power, it's normally something that would feel like agony, especially after 15 minutes or so when fatigue starts building. So the fact that I can easily hold that power for extended periods without feeling the "suffering" is quite remarkable.
It's not like I'm setting power numbers never achieved before, it's more like what I know I can do just feels "easier" and more comfortable.

I would imagine it would be quite a powerful drug for race day. (It is on the WADA list, so beware if you are going to try!)
Has anyone had a similar experience?
I think it could be a powerful tool during training to do longer harder sessions which would ultimately lead to better adaptions. (I assume). I do wonder about the potential dangers, blood pressure, elevated HR, etc.

Does anyone have any views on this?

 

[GuerillaPete]

I also train harder on moda.
Similar like on a low-mid dose anavar.
Its like i am more focused on whatever i do and better mind muscle connection .

 

[tuffie]

Modafinil is a weird substance. It was a miss for me, then after a couple weeks, tried it again and it hit me (100mg). Mainly took it during university and I worked out at the university gym, still took aas and pre workout. Didn't notice it really helped in the gym besides it being a stack for doing more than just gym.

So what I mean is, taking modafinil specifically for gym engagement/enhancements?? Idk...

 

[Trades]

I've been taking 100mg moda 4-5 days per week for the last 8 years.

Initially it feels like there's a performance benefit but...meh...after 8 years I won't notice any difference in workouts if I've taken moda that day or not. It became entirely insignificant from a performance standpoint after the first couple of months (after the novelty of it wore off).

Cognition and productivity-wise for me is why I'm still running it.

Moda has a negligible impact on my heart rate and bp. My rhr is usually in the high 40's and moda brings it up to low 50's. BP increases with moda if and only if I've had too much caffeine and/or I've popped another oral that day (like an occasional pre-workout anavar or dbol). IOW i have to stack a bunch of "stimmy" stuff to see an acute BP effect, and even then it only raises my systolic reading (the top number).

 

[chocolateandjuice]

I've been taking 100mg moda 4-5 days per week for the last 8 years.

Initially it feels like there's a performance benefit but...meh...after 8 years I won't notice any difference in workouts if I've taken moda that day or not. It became entirely insignificant from a performance standpoint after the first couple of months (after the novelty of it wore off).

Cognition and productivity-wise for me is why I'm still running it.

Moda has a negligible impact on my heart rate and bp. My rhr is usually in the high 40's and moda brings it up to low 50's. BP increases with moda if and only if I've had too much caffeine and/or I've popped another oral that day (like an occasional pre-workout anavar or dbol). IOW i have to stack a bunch of "stimmy" stuff to see an acute BP effect, and even then it only raises my systolic reading (the top number).

Do you have some "come down" issues?
Whenever I've taken Modafinil, even if just one or two days in a row, I feel crappy the next day. Which is why I only use it when I really need the boost.

 

[Trades]

The 200mg Modalert brand can mess with me a little. This one I've found more "stimmy" and has more of a dopamine release (sort of like how I remember addy's feeling, although it's been a long while). The first time dosing modalert after a period of time off I usually have trouble sleeping right away. I also develop a faster tolerance to Modalert where-as I can't run it for more than a few days before it becomes ineffective, or even counterproductive.

The 200mg Modvigil brand is less potent but still effective enough for me, and I have no problem sleeping on it (lower half life than modalert IIRC). I can also run it without experiencing the same tolerance issue that I have with modalert.

On paper I would say that 50mg of Modalert feels like 100mg of Modvigil, but I like the modvigil more for the half life elimination (I like to dose it mid-day to get me through the afternoon push at work and then to keep me fresh when I go home and entertain kids until 9pm), and I feel good the next morning.

 

[Cracken]

For me personally modafinil is helping me to focus a lot easier so yeah, training sessions are going better. The only thing is struggle to sleep if I'm taking it constantly for 1 week straight

 

[jJjburton]

The 200mg Modalert brand can mess with me a little. This one I've found more "stimmy" and has more of a dopamine release (sort of like how I remember addy's feeling, although it's been a long while). The first time dosing modalert after a period of time off I usually have trouble sleeping right away. I also develop a faster tolerance to Modalert where-as I can't run it for more than a few days before it becomes ineffective, or even counterproductive.

The 200mg Modvigil brand is less potent but still effective enough for me, and I have no problem sleeping on it (lower half life than modalert IIRC). I can also run it without experiencing the same tolerance issue that I have with modalert.

On paper I would say that 50mg of Modalert feels like 100mg of Modvigil, but I like the modvigil more for the half life elimination (I like to dose it mid-day to get me through the afternoon push at work and then to keep me fresh when I go home and entertain kids until 9pm), and I feel good the next morning.

I did not like the feeling of this stuff… it felt zombie like, no emotion. Uncomfortable

 

[GuerillaPete]

I did not like the feeling of this stuff… it felt zombie like, no emotion. Uncomfortable

Yeah it was good in the beginning.
I also quit taking it.

 

[ebkallday]

Yeah it was good in the beginning.
I also quit taking it.

Same here. It also kills any appetite I have.

 

[tangenial]

I did not like the feeling of this stuff… it felt zombie like, no emotion. Uncomfortable

Interesting. Did you feel more focused though? I have to admit that sometimes I do feel like what you stated above but not all the time.
I don't take moda often either.

 

[jJjburton]

Interesting. Did you feel more focused though? I have to admit that sometimes I do feel like what you stated above but not all the time.
I don't take moda often either.

Yes more focused, but because i didnt care about anything else, and i just wanted to get what i had to done with, felt like the numbe emotion feeling.

 

[olrak]

Thinking of giving moda a go, I usually use kratom for it's stimulating and feel good effects but only for roughly 8 weeks at a time then 4 to 8 weeks off to up regulate receptors so moda could be a nice way to fill the gap as it works through different pathways.
Do you guys have a script or use underground labs?

 

[chocolateandjuice]

I did not like the feeling of this stuff… it felt zombie like, no emotion. Uncomfortable

I only take it acutely when I need to deliver on tight deadlines or need to be on my A-game. I never take it for prolonged periods. I agree it blunts emotions, and it probably even makes me slightly more cranky/intolerant of people wasting my time.

 

[chocolateandjuice]

Thinking of giving moda a go, I usually use kratom for it's stimulating and feel good effects but only for roughly 8 weeks at a time then 4 to 8 weeks off to up regulate receptors so moda could be a nice way to fill the gap as it works through different pathways.
Do you guys have a script or use underground labs?

I've been using hab or sun pharma in the past, but recently switched to Driada and it works well for me. (forum sponsor, you can find them here)

 

[chocolateandjuice]

The 200mg Modalert brand can mess with me a little. This one I've found more "stimmy" and has more of a dopamine release (sort of like how I remember addy's feeling, although it's been a long while). The first time dosing modalert after a period of time off I usually have trouble sleeping right away. I also develop a faster tolerance to Modalert where-as I can't run it for more than a few days before it becomes ineffective, or even counterproductive.

The 200mg Modvigil brand is less potent but still effective enough for me, and I have no problem sleeping on it (lower half life than modalert IIRC). I can also run it without experiencing the same tolerance issue that I have with modalert.

On paper I would say that 50mg of Modalert feels like 100mg of Modvigil, but I like the modvigil more for the half life elimination (I like to dose it mid-day to get me through the afternoon push at work and then to keep me fresh when I go home and entertain kids until 9pm), and I feel good the next morning.

I usually use 50mg if I need more focus. 100mg if I'm under pressure with deadlines, 200mg is generally too much for me unless I split the dose, but try sleeping if you took 100mg moda after 8 am

 

[roofer22]

I'm prescribed the stuff every day. It just wakes me up without feeling methy. It's no magic potion for me.

 

[PaintDrinker]

How does it affect your guys blood pressure? I do enjoy some more mild stims, but amphetamine is way too much. How does moda compare?

 

[jJjburton]

How does it affect your guys blood pressure? I do enjoy some more mild stims, but amphetamine is way too much. How does moda compare?

It sucks