My next cycle protocol Test E + Var

[Bustybro]

So me and my boy are doing a bulk order from Qingdao on sunday, I am just ordering and not starting the cycle till I make sure I am back to baseline from the past threads. From my past Anavar only cycle I really enjoyed anavar but I know I fucked up and should've pinned but I listen to a fucking retard. The compounds that I am looking to run are Test E and anavar (since I have experience with it and side effects are low) but I am not sure if I should just stick with this because I have been researching Masteron and winstroland both look a compound that I think I would really mess with. But at the same from reading so many threads most of the time people just recommend keeping starting cycles simple so I think I am gonna keep it simple with Test E or Test C( still researching which one I would rather use.) and anavar for the last 6 weeks.

Plan:

Compounds:
Test E at 500 mg/week 1-16 ( going up or down or staying the same depending on how I react to the compound and if I am a heavy aromatizer.)
Anavar at 40mg/day week 11-16 (I want to try to test out 60 mg/day during week 12 or 13 and seeing how I react to it and if its bad I just go bad to 40mg/day or completely drop it)

AI:
Arimidex from QSC .5 mg every two days (depending on how I feel and if my mid cycle blood work shows that I am a heavy aromatizer.)

PCT:
Clomid 50/50/25/25mg/day



Last notes:
When I start the cycle I'll continue to post on this thread, and bloodwork as well. Please do give me opinions because having second opinions never hurts

 

[HB_22]

Test + var is a very strong combination. Imho one of the bests.

 

[hudson98]

looks solid, I would not use an anti e unless you get tits, no idea why guys are so scared of estrogen ive never needed one. I like prop, short actin test hits good and hard. diet and training will be key more than any AAS you run, especially since you will be coming off it looks like

 

[Testisthebest15]

I love running test c at 500mg a week with 50mg of Anavar a day. I keep nolvadex and aromasin on hand but usually don’t get any estrogen sides. Test and dbol on the other hand is another story for me. I would stick with what works. I’m stayed away from mast and winstrol as much as I’ve wanted to try them cause I’m paranoid I’m gonna lose my hair.

 

[Bustybro]

Test + var is a very strong combination. Imho one of the bests.

Yeah I really liked var by itself so I can’t imagine how it’s gonna be like with test

 

[Bustybro]

looks solid, I would not use an anti e unless you get tits, no idea why guys are so scared of estrogen ive never needed one.

So Just use it if I need it got it thanks.

I like prop, short actin test hits good and hard. diet and training will be key more than any AAS you run, especially since you will be coming off it looks like

Prop does sound nice but I kinda want to run my cycle for a longer time and I don’t want to pin ED or EOD just because school and football coming up. But diet and training is honestly really good I think once I start I am going to try to go to 2.9k cals a day rn I am eating at a maintenance with 1g/lb of protein. And training intensity and split is really always going to failure or close to failure.

 

[Leg_locker]

I'd go with test C. Test E raws are getting better but you could still run the risk of getting a bad batch. Then your first test cycle will be miserable. Also keeping it simple is the best route when your starting out.

 

[Ninjaturtle2020]

I credit testosterone cypionate and anavar for my recomp success. Great combo. About to bump from trt to 500mg test c myself for 3 months. Beginning var half way through.

 

[Rido]

Why 500?

I always thouhht 500 is always a little too much for people to start.

This is coming from someone who ramped up to 600 cycle 1.

I will still say you are too young to do steroids by it since you are gonna do it anyway..... I think you could do 350 with var and evaluate bloods.

 

[Leg_locker]

Why 500?

I always thouhht 500 is always a little too much for people to start.

This is coming from someone who ramped up to 600 cycle 1.

I will still say you are too young to do steroids by it since you are gonna do it anyway..... I think you could do 350 and evaluate bloods.

I do agree I kind of think the 500 test first cycle is outdated. Since you have no experience with what your side effects will be or how to mitigate them lower is always better plus you should be able to make great progress with 350+var

 

[SkankHunt]

Are you really 20 years old?

 

[TheSeptemberKnight]

just start at 250 for the first 4 weeks and then ramp up depending on how you react. Also having a pre determined AI dose is dumb asf.

 

[hudson98]

id jack that protein up 300 plus grams, keep calories the same. your using AAS you want to build muscle, all this evidence based study on minimum protein to grow is a bunch of horseshit. the biggest guys ate a ton of protein not 1g per lb.

 

[Rido]

id jack that protein up 300 plus grams, keep calories the same. your using AAS you want to build muscle, all this evidence based study on minimum protein to grow is a bunch of horseshit. the biggest guys ate a ton of protein not 1g per lb.

The studies actually say 1g per kg.

I like meat too much. I typically get around 200+g a day. Primarily animal protein

I do think essential amino acids (from animal) supersede an shitty plant based protein

 

[hudson98]

I don't think any of the studies are done on people using test, gh, slin, tren, and they probably don't even try to jack up the protein for ethical reasons. most people on the forums who are jacked eat 300 plus. IMO someone is missing out eating less than 250

 

[rufflesbaby]

I've ran tons of shit.. I'm going to be going back to Test-E/Anavar partially because I'm broke but otherwise I'm excited for that combo again and really wouldn't add anything else If I could.. I've ran It once before and the gains were incredible.

You mentioned a few other compounds you've looked into and I encourage you to not feel like you're "missing out" on anything. Don't even look at it like a "beginner cycle" because It's not - It's extremely advanced in Its own right, It's purely what YOU make it.

This IS the cycle of all cycles and you are leaving NOTHING on the fucking table, ALRIGHT?

Good Luck bud

 

[Rido]

I don't think any of the studies are done on people using test, gh, slin, tren, and they probably don't even try to jack up the protein for ethical reasons. most people on the forums who are jacked eat 300 plus. IMO someone is missing out eating less than 250

But steroids increase nitrogen retention right? Wouldnt protein be more effective on a natural?

Regardless if what is right. I still love meat. No homo

 

[Bustybro]

Why 500?

I always thouhht 500 is always a little too much for people to start.

This is coming from someone who ramped up to 600 cycle 1.

I will still say you are too young to do steroids by it since you are gonna do it anyway..... I think you could do 350 with var and evaluate bloods.

Like man fully Ive just been binging greg doucette and more plates more dates and I was going to start off with 300 or maybe 350 and then just go up or down or just stay the same depending how I feel yk cause like they always say use the lowest dose possible but my friends are saying "oh start off with 500mg its best you can do and if u feel sides just go down bro" like some bro science shit. planning do bloods before, 6 or 8 weeks in but i am leaning more towards 6 weeks and then post pct.

Are you really 20 years old?

I am 18

just start at 250 for the first 4 weeks and then ramp up depending on how you react. Also having a pre determined AI dose is dumb asf.

yup abunch of ppl have told me now to just do it depending on bloodwork and how I feel. appreciate it.

 

[Bustybro]

The studies actually say 1g per kg.

I like meat too much. I typically get around 200+g a day. Primarily animal protein

Man meat is the best thing like my mom still cooks for me lol and man the steaks she makes greatest thing ever. But right now I think protein is about 170gs protein a day but I am usually eating more.

 

[Bustybro]

I don't think any of the studies are done on people using test, gh, slin, tren, and they probably don't even try to jack up the protein for ethical reasons. most people on the forums who are jacked eat 300 plus. IMO someone is missing out eating less than 250

On this test cycle I am going to try to eat as much protein as possible while keeping my diet as clean as possible no dirty bulking.