my own pct i have tweeked an gotten great results

quedog123

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i know people argue with what to do for pct alot i am simply stating what had worked very well for me on a small to moderate 10-12 week cycle

*7 days before last injection of the last ass on the cycle started running NOLVA 20mg ED
*2 cays after last injection of all ass did clomid for 7 days as follows
day 1=200 2=150 3=100 4-7= 50 NOLVA 20mg ED
afer clomid started runing hcg at
*1000ius EOD for 6 days or (3 shots
then for 6 days dide 500ius Ed NOLVA 20mg ED
at this point i felt toatlly back but continued to run clomid after hcg for 14 days at 50mg a day NOLVA 20mg ED
you can give your thoughts on this but this may seem a little different then what most do but if worded great for me
 
shortz said:
If that works, that's all that matters. It looks confusing. LOL

its really not at all ill see if can simply it a repost i did work for me and thas what counts im just sharing for info reasons
 
My PCT is very unconventional as well. Also my mid cycle use of anti-e's. Definately not what some would consider "normal"...but it's working for me.

It's always nice to see what others do for their PCT....thanks for sharing.
 
ok here is a simpler lay out
cycle
week 1-12
start nolva week 11, 20 mg ed and contiue for the rest of PCT
week 13 clomid at this schedule
day 1, 200mg
2 150mg
3 100mg
4-7 50mg
week 14 HCG
day1-7) 1000ius EOD
week 15
500ius ED
week 16 possibly 17
clomid 50mg ED

is that better?
thanx for the input snowblind i too like to see what others are doin and like to share as well
 
Dunno, HCG after cycle will further keep you suppressed. Should be used during cycle.

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/clomid-hcg.asp

Here are the highlights of the link above. NDK

Using HCG
It is our opinion that HCG is probably one of the most misunderstood and misused compounds in bodybuilding. Hopefully this information will go some way towards rectifying that for the members of MuscleTalk. HCG stands for Human Chorionic Gonadotrophin and is not a steroid, but a natural peptide hormone which develops in the placenta of pregnant women during pregnancy to controls the mother's hormones. (Incidentally, this is the reason you may hear of people testing for growth hormone (HGH) with a pregnancy testing kit - If their HGH shows 'pregnant', they've been ripped-off with cheaper HCG - but we digress slightly).

Its action in the male body is like that of LH, stimulating the Leydig cells in the testes to produce testosterone even in the absence of endogenous LH. HCG is therefore used during longer or heavier steroid cycles to maintain testicular size and condition, or to bring atrophied (shrunken) testicles back up to their original condition in preparation for post-cycle Clomid therapy. This process is necessary because atrophied testicles produce reduced levels of natural testosterone, this situation should be rectified prior to post-cycle Clomid therapy.

HCG administration post-cycle is common practice among bodybuilders in the belief that it will aid the natural testosterone recovery, but this theory is unfounded and also counterproductive. The rapid rise in both testosterone, and thus oestrogen due to aromatisation, from the administration of HCG causes further inhibition of the HPTA (Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis - feedback loop discussed above); this actually worsens the recovery situation. HCG does not restore the natural testosterone production.
The typically observed dosing of 2000 to 5000IU every 4 to 5 days causes such an increase in oestrogen levels via aromatisation of the natural testosterone that this has been responsible for many cases of gynecomastia.

From the above discussion it is clear that HCG is best used during a cycle, either to:

1) Avoid testicular atrophy, or
2) Rectify the problem of an existing testicular atrophy.

Doses of HCG
Smaller doses, more frequently during a cycle will give best overall results with least unwanted side effects. Somewhere between 500iu and 1000iu per day would be best over about a two-week period. These doses are sufficient to avoid/rectify testicular atrophy without increasing oestrogen levels too dramatically and risking gynecomastia. This dosing schedule also avoids the risk of permanently down-regulating the LH receptors in the testes.

Presentation and Administration of HCG
Synthetic HCG is often known as Pregnyl (generic name) and is available in 2500iu and 5000iu (not ideal for the above doses!). Administration of the compound is either by intra-muscular or subcutaneous injection. It comes as a powder which needs to be mixed with the sterile water. The powder is temperature-sensitive prior to mixing and should not be exposed to direct heat. After mixing, it should be kept refrigerated and used within a few weeks - though there are sterility issues which need to be considered after mixing.
 
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