N2BM Products and Alternatives.

[KsBoost]

Okay guys, this thread isn't meant to stir anything up, though I'm sure it will.

As i said in my New Member's post, one of the reasons why i joined meso, is the honesty and knowledge in the couple of posts that i browsed, it seems people here dont beat around the bush and try to push nonsense, only stuff that works.

With that being said, let me start off with this,

I am 21 years old, so i would like to remain natty. The reason i say this is because i will go into a couple of products I have used from n2bm, what i thought they would do for me, and in the threads on meso that i read about n2bm, most people say talk about which AAS compounds are superior, which they probably all are, so again im trying to find my natty edge.

Another note, is i havent been exposed to many underground supp companies, so I do agree with the fact that n2bm reps make n2bm seem like gods gift, if you all can point me in the direction of supplements that im looking for which are superior, that would be fantastic!

N2BM N2Slin - A nutrient partitioner, there isnt a whole lot to say about what that means. I like the concept, this is one of the products that i have been using pretty religiously. Thoughts? Alternatives?
https://thinksteroids.com/community/forums/nutrition-supplements-forum.4/create-thread
HCGENERATE - A natty test booster. This one is probably the most popular of the n2bm line. Again I havent been exposed to many test boosters, gave it a shot, and honestly i think it helped, but i wont say it was anything godly. Thoughts? Alternatives?

GEAR- Again, I like the concept of this product, but im not a scientist so i dont know how much of what this is is bullshit or true. Thoughts? Alternatives?

D-Spark- I picked this up not too long ago and i havent used it yet. D-aspartic acid and a bit of arimistane. Thoughts? Alternatives.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST
This doesnt have to do with n2bm, when i first started my weight loss journey, i was able to purchase ephedrine. Ran EC Stack and loved it, ANY GIVEN DAY, if i had the option to, my cutting stack would be EC. But alas, we cannot buy ephedrine in the states anymore. Thoughts? Possible Ephedrine source? lol alternatives?

Thanks guys, and again this isnt meant to stir anything up, i am not condoning n2bm at all just, looking for the best edge i can get. Im sure i will get pointed in the right direction.

 

[rigs03]

In my honest opinion- the basics such as creatine, whey, a multi, and ***FOOD*** are the only things worth while before stepping into the aas or prohormone world, or anything non natural.

Other than those, basically just try out different test boosters if you feel they help you after you've experienced a few.

I admire your choice to stay natural until you have reached your full potential especially at a younger age-- most of us were not blessed with such patience!

 

[KsBoost]

In my honest opinion- the basics such as creatine, whey, a multi, and ***FOOD*** are the only things worth while before stepping into the aas or prohormone world, or anything non natural.

Other than those, basically just try out different test boosters if you feel they help you after you've experienced a few.

I admire your choice to stay natural until you have reached your full potential especially at a younger age-- most of us were not blessed with such patience!

Oh man my patience is running out. Everything that works always gets banned.

Died a little when ephedrine got banned.

 

[powerlifter89]

Truth be told, 95% of legal supplements out there are garbage and the only effect you will get is your wallet being lighter. That market is chalked full of snake oil salesmen who use their Jedi mind trick marketing tactics on younger dudes like you, trust me any money you spend on them would be better spent on making your diet better and even some sort of reputable coaching from a training perspective.

 

[TyroneMoreGains]

Well, we're about the same age so I think I might be able to give you some advice on things that have worked for me when it comes to staying natrual.
The last time I tested my Test levels was about 7 months ago my TT was at
Around the 1100 range. I will be posting my bloods in a couple of months to see if there has been any positive or negative effects.

Here's the list of thing I take:
Magnesium: I think it Glycinate but not too sure @1g elemental
Zinc: 90 mg Elemental
Vitamin D3: 20 Drops @10,000 IUs for all 20
Ashwagandha : @ 7 grams
Idodine Lougols: 8 drops
Boron the mule team kind : at 1/2 teaspoon
Raw eggs: a dozen a day (fertile)
My diet is usally high fats and high carbs with minimal protien.

I feel like it has helped me but it might just be placebo I don't know.. I feel great and my levels are looking good. But it might just be the fact that I'm 20..

 

[KsBoost]

Well, we're about the same age so I think I might be able to give you some advice on things that have worked for me when it comes to staying natrual.
The last time I tested my Test levels was about 7 months ago my TT was at
Around the 1100 range. I will be posting my bloods in a couple of months to see if there has been any positive or negative effects.

Here's the list of thing I take:
Magnesium: I think it Glycinate but not too sure @1g elemental
Zinc: 90 mg Elemental
Vitamin D3: 20 Drops @10,000 IUs for all 20
Ashwagandha : @ 7 grams
Idodine Lougols: 8 drops
Boron the mule team kind : at 1/2 teaspoon
Raw eggs: a dozen a day (fertile)
My diet is usally high fats and high carbs with minimal protien.

I feel like it has helped me but it might just be placebo I don't know.. I feel great and my levels are looking good. But it might just be the fact that I'm 20..

Your supplement stack is unlike anything you typically see.
I threw in some zinc every once in a while, but other than that i havent taken anything else on your list.

We have crazy test levels at our age as it is, thats why a test booster is really the last thing im worried about, as far as the other supps i mentioned, they have other jobs im interested in. Nutrient partitioning, maximizing protein synthesis, etc.

 

[pmac928]

If you look on the labels of all those products you will see they are just herbal supplements. You can go to any Walmart or vitamin shop and pick up the same thIngs. Just cause they blend them together and market them as the end all be all of natural products doesn't mean a thing. I was suckered I to that hcgenerate and it's garbage. It did not a damn thing. Save your money and get your diet perfect.

 

[Docd187123]

N2BM products are garbage. There is not way I would be spending my money on their products.

 

[brutus79]

Well, we're about the same age so I think I might be able to give you some advice on things that have worked for me when it comes to staying natrual.
The last time I tested my Test levels was about 7 months ago my TT was at
Around the 1100 range. I will be posting my bloods in a couple of months to see if there has been any positive or negative effects.

Here's the list of thing I take:
Magnesium: I think it Glycinate but not too sure @1g elemental
Zinc: 90 mg Elemental
Vitamin D3: 20 Drops @10,000 IUs for all 20
Ashwagandha : @ 7 grams
Idodine Lougols: 8 drops
Boron the mule team kind : at 1/2 teaspoon
Raw eggs: a dozen a day (fertile)
My diet is usally high fats and high carbs with minimal protien.

I feel like it has helped me but it might just be placebo I don't know.. I feel great and my levels are looking good. But it might just be the fact that I'm 20..

High fat high carb minimal protein? Is that a typo?

 

[TyroneMoreGains]

High fat high carb minimal protein? Is that a typo?

Yeah the minimal protien and high carb part was.
really it's just high fat moderate carbs and protien

 

[KsBoost]

Yeah the minimal protien and high carb part was.
really it's just high fat moderate carbs and protien

Thats a different diet setup, hows that working for you? Are you seeing gains? whats your body fat? Etc.

 

[KsBoost]

Thanks for the supplement feedback as well guys.

 

[TyroneMoreGains]

Thats a different diet setup, hows that working for you? Are you seeing gains? whats your body fat? Etc.

Well, I have gotten pretty fucking fat this last six months mostly because of just overeating.
Right now I'm at around 6'1 235-238 @ 18 - 19 ish bodyfat

The gains I have seen though did a one rep max of 365 (bench) the other day Good form and all just felt like a busted a nut.

I probably should looking into cutting since I've put on 30 pounds of mostly fat

 

[TyroneMoreGains]

Thanks for the supplement feedback as well guys.

I think ruckin has a similar approach to dieting.
you should check out his log it's pretty interesting.

 

[TyroneMoreGains]

Well, I have gotten pretty fucking fat this last six months mostly because of just overeating.
Right now I'm at around 6'1 235-238 @ 18 - 19 ish bodyfat

The gains I have seen though did a one rep max of 365 (bench) the other day Good form and all just felt like a busted a nut.

I probably should looking into cutting since I've put on 30 pounds of mostly fat

Meant 325
I ain't that much of a beast...